[Foundation-l] Boycott in ace at wiki

Oliver Keyes scire.facias at gmail.com
Sat Jul 17 16:21:00 UTC 2010


Seconded, particularly (2). The line I use with OTRS and other complainants
about muhammad images is simply that; that we cannot favour one particular
group, because we'd have to favour a second, and so on - the end result is
removing everything anyone could ever find offensive.

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Excirial <wp.excirial at gmail.com> wrote:

> *There is no general Christian prohibition on depicting Christ. In fact it
> is a generally accepted practice. Generally Muslims don't, and consider it
> a
> mark of disrespect to do so. Why offend?*
>
> 1) It is a historically important subject which should be covered in an
> encyclopedia.
> 2) We do not cater to the wishes and desires of any group, no exception. If
> we cater one, we have to cater a second, then a third and so on and on.
> 3) Anyone who does not wish to see the images can block them - its a
> personal choice on whether you do or don't want to see. If there is a
> problem with their mere existence there is nothing we can do - we can't
> erase them from history.
> 4) The images may offend millions, but that still leaves billions who
> aren't
> offended by them. I would argue that the knowledge needs of the larger
> group
> outweigh the issues of the smaller group - especially since we are not
> forcing anything on the small group. As said in point 3: Images are on
> specific pages, and even those are accessible since images can be blocked.
>
> As said before, we should be careful with content that could be deemed
> offensive, to prevent needless friction - For example we shouldn't be
> placing images of Muhammad on article's that have only a partial relation
> with him, such as "Prophets of Islam". In other words, the are in which
> they
> are posted should be contained, but not exterminated.
>
> ~Excirial
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>
> wrote:
>
> > > Have you seen [[Piss Christ]]? How is that different?
> >
> > There is no general Christian prohibition on depicting Christ. In fact it
> > is a generally accepted practice. Generally Muslims don't, and consider
> > it a mark of disrespect to do so. Why offend?
> >
> > Piss Christ was an artistic-political controversy.
> >
> > Fred Bauder
> >
> >
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