[Foundation-l] Money, politics and corruption

[wjhonson at aol.com]

 An audit of what exactly?  You mean a financial audit of monies passing through the hands of the WMF ?
That kind of audit?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 7:13 am
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Money, politics and corruption


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13 July 2010 23:30, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:

>> I will talk without mentioning names, but I will try to be precise

>> enough. In other words, I don't want to talk about people and

>> organizations, but about problems. Taking care about problems is much

>> more important than making witch hunts.

>

> Unfortunately, we can't really talk about problems without

> establishing whether there is a problem. Some vague comments about

> some vague rumours of corruption in some unspecified chapters doesn't

> really count as establishing that a problem exists. If you have

> evidence of corruption within the Wikimedia movement, then you need to

> present it. You can choose to present it to us or to the relevant

> authorities, but you shouldn't just hint at it.



(This is the reply to all of you who complained about not mentioning names.)



First of all, I am not able to talk about people who complained me.

Second, if I become more precise about chapters, I would again expose

my informants. Third, I am not able to talk publicly about particular

chapters based on private talks because I don't have any document,

just words of a couple of persons to whom I trust.



At last, I've suggested reasonable measures for every mentioned

problem. For example, in the case of corruption, making a proper audit

process should help and it is fully uncontroversial measure.



It should be noted that I am not a member of any kind of audit body

which is able mark particular problems publicly. I've just got enough

information to feel responsible to expose them carefully in public,

with taking care not to hurt anyone.



I am also open for *private* discussion with all relevant people who

are able to fix those problems.



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