[Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

Oliver Keyes scire.facias at gmail.com
Tue Aug 3 12:36:19 UTC 2010


So if the incentive to improve it will end and the people who contribute
will switch over.. you have nothing to complain about, because the quote
unquote "imposed" skin will die out. End of problem.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:55 AM, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:

> Brandon Harris wrote:
> > This reads to me like you're trying to start a fight with the Usability
> > team, and I don't rightly cotton to that idea.  The team is comprised of
> > many people, all with different opinions to be sure - but they are all
> > *dedicated to the mission.*
>
> I wasn't aware "cotton" could be used a verb. Thanks for that. Your point
> is
> hollow, though.
>
> > So you should assume good faith, even if you disagree.
>
> When there's a financial incentive to change the interface, the interface
> is
> going to change, regardless of whether it's an improvement or necessary. I
> think this is partially (perhaps more than partially) the reason that
> Wikimedia is now shifting away from large grants in favor of small
> donations. (Sue may have said as much explicitly, I'd have to look.) And,
> for what it's worth, I think it's a smart shift.
>
> Brandon Harris wrote:
> > It is possible for long-term or power-users of Wikimedia software to
> > change the skin they use if they find serious fault with Vector.
>
> Oliver Keyes wrote:
> > Impose? You know it can be turned off, right?
>
> Being able to disable the skin is one of the reasons it won't see
> improvement. It's far less effort to switch your personal skin back to the
> old default (which is what thousands of people have done) than battle those
> who have imposed (yes, imposed) the new skin. And when the power-users and
> long-term contributors (those who have accounts‹anonymous users can't
> change
> their skin) switch back, the incentive to work on improving the skin
> greatly
> diminishes.
>
> This is a basic principle of interface design; I'm sure there's a Wikipedia
> article about it somewhere.
>
> MZMcBride
>
>
>
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