[Foundation-l] FlaggedRevs on Hungarian Wikipedia still not working

[Birgitte SB]

I checked on it today and saw that this bug is marked resolved.  Tisza, is it working to hu.WP's satisfaction now?

Birgitte SB

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Tisza Gergő <gtisza at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Tisza Gergő <gtisza at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevs on Hungarian Wikipedia still not working
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Cc: wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 6:24 PM
> The autoreview feature for
> FlaggedRevs does not work in the Hungarian
> Wikipedia because of a configuration problem with a group
> name. This
> causes a lot of extra work for the patrollers, and a lot of
> extra
> waiting for everyone else for their edits to appear.
> 
> It has been about forty days since I filed a bug about
> this; in the
> meantime, I asked twice for help on wikitech-l (not to
> mention the
> several personal emails and IRC messages I and other
> Hungarian editors
> sent). After my first wikitech-l mail, there was a short
> and
> unsuccessful attempt to fix the problem without actually
> understanding
> what we asked for; before and after, in those seven weeks,
> nothing
> happened.
> 
> This is very disappointing. To fix the bug, one would need
> to replace
> all occurrences of 'confirmed' with 'trusted' in the huwiki
> flagrev
> config file - that takes about 20 seconds. If one wanted to
> be
> thorough about it and move users from the old group to the
> new, one
> would need to construct an appropriate SQL query - maybe 5
> more
> minutes. There are about a hundred patrollers on
> hu.wikipedia
> (including admins). If we suppose they only have to work
> one extra
> minute a day each (a very unrealistic lower estimation),
> that adds up
> to about sixty hours. Which is about a thousand times
> twenty seconds.
> 
> Is staff time really a thousand times more valuable than
> volunteer
> time, so that no one can be bothered to make this trivial
> fix, even if
> many hours of other people's time could be spared? I'm
> aware it is
> summer, and Wikimania is going on, and everyone has a lot
> on their
> hands, but even so I can't believe none of the people with
> shell
> access can find a minute to make the fix..
> 
> Letting the time of the most active community members go to
> waste like
> this is not only very discouraging them, and not only does
> it
> undermine their trust in the revision flagging system
> (which proved to
> be a very valuable anti-vandalism tool, but it was always
> hard to get
> enough people involved), it also creates a rift between WMF
> and the
> local community. People perceive that the foundation does
> not respect
> their volunteer work at all, and it is only quick when it
> is creating
> problems (their previous contact with WMF was when someone
> shot down
> the statistics script that ran with community consensus,
> without as
> much as a question or comment), and not when it should be
> solving
> them.
> 
> If you want to broaden participation and involve more
> people into
> meta-projects, start with actually caring about issues like
> these. And
> now please, please find someone to finally fix bug 19885.
> 
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