[Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Oct 26 16:33:27 UTC 2009


Hoi,
Ehm, the statistics that we have are compiled by Erik Zachte.. qualifying
our staff and implicitly Erik as lacking the experience is .... a bit off.
It is not only the Commons project but also the Usability Initiative and the
Strategy project that will rely largely on these numbers..

Having spend a considerable amount of time getting to grips with our
statistics  I can tell you that the beauty of Erik's presentations is that
they help you approach them in different ways. As for instance the traffic
statistics change daily and consequently you see the order of the different
wikipedias in this chart  in time.. but you have to get a feel for these
dynamics... One nice touch is that the article statistics are in the same
order. This gives a feel for the relation traffic and article numbers...
this is less obvious then I thought at first...

Anyway.. I am sure that with Erik involved in statistics for Commons, we
will get not only numbers but also a presentations that is thought
provoking.
Thanks,
     GerardM

2009/10/26 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>

> 2009/10/26 Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier at wikimedia.org>:
> > Yes, we tested the survey, but with a smaller number of people, because
> > of the time constraints (the multimedia usability project really started
> > only 2 weeks ago, and the fundraising campaign is going to be the major
> > focus of sitenotices from next week to January). And the problem didn't
> > appear during the tests.
>
> It would probably be better to take your time to do proper tests, even
> if you have to wait until after the fundraiser. It is very difficult
> to draw useful results from a poor survey and if you haven't done
> enough testing to spot something as simple as that then you haven't
> done enough testing to spot more serious problems. Who is your
> statistician? As far as I can tell, nobody on staff has significant
> training in statistics, so presumably you are using a consultancy
> firm? Did they not tell you you needed to do more testing?
>
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