[Foundation-l] Improving foundation-l

[wjhonson at aol.com]

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From: Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 1:46 pm
Subject: [Foundation-l] Improving foundation-l










<<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l hasn't had any edits
in a couple weeks now.  Have we decided this isn't such a big problem after
all?  Have we given up?  Just waiting a few months for someone to post a
complaint so we can repeat this all over again?  Austin?  Ryan?  Anyone?>>
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The entire page is founded on unsubstantiated and generic complaints
which all lists share.  I'm on moderated lists which are completely horrible.
And I'm on unmoderated lists which are absolutely excellent.

Jimmy Wales himself has stated, and I've quoted him in one of my articles
that when he ran his own discussion group he allowed people to talk themselves
out.  There will always be people who unsubscribe, there will always be
new subscribers.  There is no fix which will address that issue.

There will always be people complaining that something is broken, there
will always be people saying nothing is broken.

Let's see some actual numbers, actual citations and actual research
that others can test, prod, and comprehend.  The page right now has
nothing like a scientific approach to even a description of the problem
let alone trying to find any "solution".

W.J.