[Foundation-l] getting Wikipedia to the 5.2 billion people who can't access it

Anthony wikimail at inbox.org
Sun May 31 18:23:51 UTC 2009

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2009/5/31 Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org>:
> > If you watched the Wave presentation you'll see that there is quite a bit
> of
> > edit conflict handling already built in (they showed three people editing
> > the same page simultaneously).
> I did watch it. That was live, they could see each other editing and
> avoid each other. There was no conflict. You are talking about people
> without live internet connections.

Watch it again then.  There was at least one conflict, and they even pointed
it out and mentioned conflict resolution.

Clearly if two people edit exactly the same text one of the edits is going
to fail.  But that's not the common situation.

>> All people reading Wikipedia need is a plain HTML file per article,
> nothing
> >> more.
> >
> >
> > Easier said than done, though.  The static HTML Wikipedia dumps haven't
> been
> > updated since June 2008.  With Wave, updates are instantaneous.
> MediaWiki updates are instantaneous. Where is the improvement in
> people reading Wikipedia via Wave?

One advantage, the one we were talking about, is that you don't need to be
connected to the Internet while you're reading it.

Yes, you could in theory implement such a thing without Wave, but unless the
WMF starts offering free live feeds (even for intermittent connections),
it's not going to be updated like Wave is.  Maybe the WMF won't support
access to Wikipedia articles through Wave, but then, a fork will, and the
WMF's goal ("to empower and engage people around the world to collect and
develop educational content under a free
license<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:free_content>or in the public
domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally"),
is still met, even if their particular implementation of it isn't.

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