[Foundation-l] Google Wave and Wikimedia projects

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sat May 30 12:03:35 UTC 2009


Hoi,
There was also Safari ... the message was "modern" browsers.. but this is
for the reference implementation Google will build. It was also demonstrated
that you can go as low as a command line tool for this..
Thanks,
     GerardM

2009/5/30 Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org>

> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Yeah, sure. Like the way Jabber killed proprietary protocols like MSN
> > > and AIM, right? It's been 9 years since the first release now.
> >
> > This is a completely other path. As I said, I thought that the
> > development of something almost identical to the Wave would be much
> > slower. However, at this point, there is one large corporation behind
> > it and it is not partially, like they are behind XMPP with their
> > Gtalk.
>
>
> If AOL had built XMPP into AIM in 1997, the story would have played out
> much
> differently.
>
> > The proprietary IM networks will steal the best ideas from Wave and
> > > add their own bit of marketing spin, which somehow, to the hoards of
> > > faithful users, will seem even cooler than what Google Wave can do.
> > > That's assuming they even perceive a threat.
> >
> > Yes, this is potential problem.
>
>
> It's weird, because what I see as the killer apps for this have nothing to
> do with instant messaging, and nothing to do with email either.
>
> I'm not sure if it'll catch on, because Google seems to have added so much
> extraneous crap into the mix, but given the ability of people to adapt
> Google services to novel uses, maybe it will catch on.
>
> I don't plan on replacing my email or instant messenger with this (though
> hopefully plain old vanilla gmail will be built in and I won't have to).  I
> might replace my Google Reader, though, when someone comes up with an RSS
> bot.  I might also replace a few private wikis I have, especially if my
> friends on those private wikis find Wave easier to use.
>
> My initial dislike of the idea turned when I stopped trying to think of
> Wave
> as email, as Google is pushing it.
>
> > Browsers are something Microsoft actually supports and packages with
> > > their OS, unlike federated, open-protocol IM clients, which as we've
> > > seen over the past 9 years, they are not interested in. They've even
> > > discontinued their IRC client.
> >
> > There will be web interface, too.
>
>
> I thought that's all it was was a web interface...  IIRC the preview was
> run
> in Chrome and Firefox, wasn't it?
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