[Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people
sgardner at wikimedia.org
Wed Mar 4 22:34:26 UTC 2009
2009/3/4 Dominic <dmcdevit at cox.net>
> Sue Gardner wrote:
> > I am just clarifying - "default to delete unless consensus to keep" would
> > a change from current state, right?
> In terms of policy, "default to delete" is the current state for BLPs.
> To be more exact, the important bit is: "If there is no rough consensus
> and the page is not a BLP describing a relatively unknown person, the
> page is kept and is again subject to normal editing, merging or
> redirecting as appropriate." However, that is at least somewhat new
> (several months old, I think), and I am not certain how universally
> administrators apply it at this point. The relevant policy is at
I'm confused. Doesn't the current (English) policy say "if there's no
consensus ... the page is kept." So, default to _keep_, rather than default
It's only the English policy, so I realize it's not necessarily
representative/reflective of any of the other language versions,
regardless. But in general, my understanding is that "default to keep" is
more-or-less standard practice Wikipedia-wide (as much as all language
versions can be said to have a standard practice), and the English policy
seems to support that.
Recapping this piece of the thread: It seems to me that "default to delete"
is not widely considered satisfactory, if it is interpreted to mean an
automatic or near-automatic deletion upon request. Human judgment needs to
Erik had proposed that articles which meet these three criteria be deleted
upon request: 1) they are not balanced and complete, 2) the subject is only
marginally notable, and 3) the subject wants the article deleted. This would
shift the bar towards a more deletionist stance for BLPs, but would preserve
articles which are either complete and balanced, _or_ which are about people
who are clearly self-evidently notable.
Assuming there is some consensus about what clearly self-evidently notable
means, or that some consensus could be created ..... does that proposal make
sense to people here?
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