[Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

Geoffrey Plourde geo.plrd at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 20 19:22:57 UTC 2009


For some reason, I am reminded of a Supreme Court case about the information in telephone directories. Maybe because of the insanity of trying to put public domain material under copyright. 




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From: Brian <Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

That is against the law. It violates Google's ToS.

I'm mostly complaining that Google is being Very Evil. There is nothing we
can do about it except complain to them. Which I don't know how to do - they
apparently believe that the plain text versions of their books are akin to
their intellectual property and are unwilling to give them away.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Falcorian <
alex.public.account+WikimediaMailingList at gmail.com<alex.public.account%2BWikimediaMailingList at gmail.com>
> wrote:

> So the bot just has to run at human speeds so it does not get banned, it
> still won't get tired or make unpredictable mistakes. And you can run it
> from different IPs to parallelize.
>
> --Falcorian
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Brian <Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu> wrote:
>
> > Not likely. I've been banned from Google's regular search at least a
> dozen
> > times during semi-frenetic search sprees in which I was identified as a
> > bot.
> > There is no doubt that if you try to automate it you will be quickly shot
> > down.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Platonides <Platonides at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Brian wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately the only way I've found to download the full text of a
> > > public
> > > > domain book from Google is to flip through the book a page at a time,
> > > > copying the text to your clipboard.
> > > > There are roughly 2-3 million public domain books in Google Books.
> > >
> > > That's easy to fix :)
> > >
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