[Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 63, Issue 38

Shannon Miller shanmiller029 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 15 08:39:51 UTC 2009


Hi Cary Bass,

Congratulations on your new voluntary position in the oversight of Wikipeida!
As a volunteer and regular foundantion-l list e-mail receiver, I hope that you will be given no discretionary power whatsoever as to this free-entrepreneurial dot.com company.
This economic crisis demands not panic but unity in its smallest form; and under the context in anger upon which I am writing to you, unity is far from a modern reality.

sMilla94070
thank you




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Today's Topics:

   1. Some reflections about the governance of Commons (Ting Chen)
   2. How to help convince Google not to foul up HTML5    <video>?
      (David Gerard)
   3. Volunteer:Email response statistician (Cary Bass)
   4. Re: [Wikitech-l] Licensing update: Final steps (Erik Moeller)
   5. Re: Licensing update: Final steps (Erik Moeller)
   6. Re: Licensing update: Final steps (Unionhawk)
   7. Re: Licensing update: Final steps (Erik Moeller)
   8. Re: Licensing update: Final steps (Gordon Joly)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:10:32 +0200
From: Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de>
Subject: [Foundation-l] Some reflections about the governance of
    Commons
To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l at lists.wikimedia.org>,
    Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <4A326FE8.6080207 at gmx.de>
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Hello,

I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think 
Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. 
With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other 
organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them 
to Commons it also becomes a fassade project of the Foundation and its 
chapters. This and other reasons make me think that we should as broadly 
as possible to discuss a few issues on Commons. The discussion is here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Some_reflections_about_the_governance_of_Common

-- 
Ting

Ting's Blog: http://wingphilopp.blogspot.com/




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:22:28 +0100
From: David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
Subject: [Foundation-l] How to help convince Google not to foul up
    HTML5    <video>?
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
    <fbad4e140906121122i74a745b8lf48006fcbcdba336 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Summary: Google Chrome includes Ogg support for the <video> element.
It also includes H.264 support. Fine, but ... they're also testing
HTML5 YouTube *only* for H.264.

Mike Shaver from Mozilla has fairly unambiguously asked Chris diBona
from Google what the heck Google thinks it's doing:

http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020363.html

Google appears to want Ogg support, but strictly as a sideline for
H.264 support. Is there anyone around the Foundation who can ask them
"wtf?"


- d.



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:54:04 -0700
From: Cary Bass <cary at wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Foundation-l] Volunteer:Email response statistician
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>,     English Wikipedia
    <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>,    wikipedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org
Message-ID: <4A32C06C.7040002 at wikimedia.org>
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Hi all, please see new volunteer position[1] for Email response (OTRS)
statistician.  This position is specific to the English Wikipedia group
of email queues, but may be customized for other langauges/projects later.

If you have specific questions, feel free to email me directly, but I'd
like to keep general discussion on the lists to a minimum.

Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation

[1]
<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteering:Email_response_statistician>


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:51:25 -0700
From: Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Licensing update: Final steps
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: translators-l at lists.wikimedia.org,
    foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
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    <b80736c80906121951u23b054b6m42f4a2e847da6ba2 at mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/9 Platonides <Platonides at gmail.com>:
> Sorry if it has already been discussed before but, why has the English
> version to be included in the same page?
> Isn't a link good enough?

In the past years we've seen substantial semantic drift in the various
localized/translated versions. Having the English version visible for
consistent reference should help to avoid this. A two-column format
should make it not-too-irritating.

> We also need a technical way of flagging CC-BY-SA only content
> (page_props?).

No, we're not committing to any advanced tracking of GFDL; it's an
obligation of re-users. (Which they should be able to meet by checking
for attribution of single-licensed content.)
-- 
Erik M?ller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:53:04 -0700
From: Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
    <b80736c80906121953i7da265b0m250f8f27d4f62718 at mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/10 geni <geniice at gmail.com>:
> Well the Terms for edit screen is unacceptably long

<snip>

Some of this was helpful, thanks. I've responded on the talk page and
made some further edits.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation
-- 
Erik M?ller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:55:04 -0400
From: Unionhawk <unionhawk.sitemod at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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Look, this should all be really simple... Just get the developers to
change the footer(s) and any admin copy the legal code of the creative
commons license into the current page... How many Wikipedians does it
take to change the licensing?
- --Unionhawk

Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2009/6/10 geni <geniice at gmail.com>:
>> Well the Terms for edit screen is unacceptably long
>
> <snip>
>
> Some of this was helpful, thanks. I've responded on the talk page and
> made some further edits.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:05:26 -0700
From: Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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    <b80736c80906122005g40b2080eob73adef79acfde49 at mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/12 Unionhawk <unionhawk.sitemod at gmail.com>:
> Look, this should all be really simple... Just get the developers to
> change the footer(s) and any admin copy the legal code of the creative
> commons license into the current page... How many Wikipedians does it
> take to change the licensing?

More than one to do it correctly. :-)
-- 
Erik M?ller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation

Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:28:05 +0100
From: Gordon Joly <gordon.joly at pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update: Final steps
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
    <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <p06240802c659054b7357@[192.168.116.8]>
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At 20:05 -0700 12/6/09, Erik Moeller wrote:
>2009/6/12 Unionhawk <unionhawk.sitemod at gmail.com>:
>>  Look, this should all be really simple... Just get the developers to
>  > change the footer(s) and any admin copy the legal code of the creative
>>  commons license into the current page... How many Wikipedians does it
>>  take to change the licensing?
>
>More than one to do it correctly. :-)
>--
>Erik M?ller
>Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation

Is there any compulsion to contact all previous 
authors/editors/contributors directly?

Gordo

-- 
"Think Feynman"/////////
http://pobox.com/~gordo/
gordon.joly at pobox.com///



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