[Foundation-l] Google Translate now assists with human translations of Wikipedia articles

Brian Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu
Tue Jun 9 23:27:30 UTC 2009

Google and the user entered into a completely different contract by agreeing
to operate on freely licensed content.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Brian<Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu> wrote:
> > In the absence of a specific argument against my argument, my argument
> holds
> > - Google imports the data into their own service and there is no
> > contradiction.
> >
> > Suppose however that my argument did not hold - that when Google
> download's
> > data to their own servers on behalf of a user this section of the ToS
> > becomes a legally binding contract between Google and the user. Is there
> a
> > contradiction between the ToS and Wikipedia's copyright policy?
> >
> > On the one hand we have Google's ToS which states that when a user
> imports
> > data they grant Google rights that, legally, the user cannot grant. On
> the
> > other hand Google has clearly created a service that is meant to assist
> > Wikipedian's in translating articles from one language to another so that
> > the data might be imported back into Wikipedia. The very existence of
> such a
> > service, created for the express purpose of operating on GFDL/CC-BY-SA
> text,
> > automatically voids the statement in the ToS because it is nonsensical.
> If
> > Google were to try to make a legal claim on the content, which they would
> > not, they would have no legal basis on which to do so.
> I do not see your argument... There is a contract between Google and
> the user, granting Google certain rights. Why does the fact that the
> user (and/or Google) intends to use the material for something else
> void this contract?
> --
> André Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
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