[Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies #2

[John at Darkstar]

The strange thingh is, some such servers seems to be outside discussion
while others are not. ;)

John

Tisza Gergő skrev:
> Nathan <nawrich at ...> writes:
> 
>> Others have since discussed more centralised and secure methods for
>> providing these statistics via the WMF - this is the ideal outcome, and one
>> that might have been achieved earlier had you proposed your method rather
>> than simply going ahead alone.
> 
> Setting up an off-the-shelf awstats with an invisible pixel is web statistics
> 101, not something that needs to be invented. The reason nothing similar got
> implemented is not that nobody thought of this method, but that it wouldn't work
> with enwiki so nobody cared. Actually, the old knams stat (which also collected
> referrers, so it was in some aspects superior) could have been easily kept
> working by filtering out enwiki, and maybe the next few largest projects; again,
> nobody cared. Features that only benefit the smaller projects rarely get enough
> developer interest, which is understandable, but then it is only natural that
> those smaller projects try to solve their issues for themselves. And we did it
> with privacy in mind - we would have obviously preferred Google Analytics
> ourselves, but we didn't switch because we didn't want the logs to leak to
> servers not controlled by WM community, and because it shows data that can be
> used to identify IP adresses.
> 
> 
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