[Foundation-l] pt:wiki policies

Happy-melon happy-melon at live.com
Fri Jun 5 21:16:42 UTC 2009

The Wikimedia wikis are, ultimately, private websites, owned and operated by 
the Foundation.  That the software they run happens to allow millions of 
users the ability to make changes to said site is ultimately just fortunate 
coincidence: the ability to edit Wikimedia wikis is a privilege, not a 
right, and one that can be withdrawn at any time and for any reason.  with 
the usual IANAL disclaimer, legal non-discrimination mandates have no force 
here.  If the issue were a Wikimedia *employee* being fired or blocked with 
the additional factor of said disability, the situation would be very 
different.  That is not the case.  In this context, we are guided only by 
our own ethics, and the values and goals of the project.


"Nathan" <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:7e948df10906051150h79d82524ha325aeb59ae9f2ed at mail.gmail.com...
> Virgilio, you simply have not provided or described sufficient evidence to
> back up the conclusion that the people who "run" pt.wp are have severe
> emotional problems. Such accusations serve only to call your own integrity
> into question, which I'm sure you wish to avoid.
> It should be noted that most disability access laws refer to the right of
> access to certain classes of goods and services and employment. Editing
> Wikipedia would not seem to fall into any of the typically covered
> categories, even were it under the jurisdiction of such laws. While I'm 
> not
> an expert on the subject, I'm not aware of any laws that even require 
> access
> to the Internet, let alone resources or activities accessed through it. So
> the question of law is really separate; if you want to make a case about
> access, it needs to be done on other grounds.
> In the last discussion it was said by many that the primary role of 
> editors
> is the contribution and improvement of free content, and the privilege of
> editing access is provided for that purpose. If we can help people with
> certain disabilities be productive as editors, we should. If a disabled
> editor, as any editor, becomes disruptive and impedes the goal of the
> project (and assistance fails to solve the problem) then that person 
> should
> be blocked.
> My suggestion is that if you have a specific problem you'd like addressed,
> bring that specific problem to the front. The way you've written your 
> post,
> it seems like you are trying to elicit statements that you can bring back 
> to
> pt.wp and use in a dispute - all without telling us what the actual 
> dispute
> is. That doesn't really fly here.
> Nathan
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