[Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies
John at Darkstar
vacuum at jeb.no
Fri Jun 5 06:14:48 UTC 2009
> John at Darkstar wrote:
>>> Hmm? There's no reason to do anything like that. The AbuseFilter would
>>> just prevent sitewide JS pages from being saved with the particular URLs
>>> or a particular code block in them. It'll stop the well-meaning but
>>> misguided admins. Short of restricting site JS to the point of
>>> uselessness, you'll never be able to stop determined abusers.
>> A very typical code fragment to make a stat url is something like
>> document.write('<img scr="' + server + digest + '">');
>> - server is some kind of external url
>> - digest is just some random garbage to bypass caching
>> This kind of code exists in so many variants that it is very difficult
>> to say anything about how it may be implemented. Often it will not use a
>> document.write on systems like Wikipedia but instead use createElement()
>> Very often someone claims that the definition of "server" will be
>> complete and may be used to identify the external server sufficiently.
>> That is not a valid claim as many such sites can be referred for other
> Other purposes that have valid uses loading 3rd party content on a
> Wikimedia wiki? Like what?
If you don't trust other sites you also has to accept that you can't
trust ant kind of «toolserver» where you don't have complete control.
That opens a lot of problems
>> Note also that the number of urls will be huge as this type of
>> service is very popular, not to say that anyone that want may set up a
>> special stat aggregator on an otherwise unknown domain.
>> Basically, simple regexps are not sufficient for detecting this kind of
> I don't think I said it would be perfect, the idea isn't to 100% prevent
> it, just to try to stop the most obvious cases like Google analytics.
Its not that it won't be perfect, it simply will not work.
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