[Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
cimonavaro at gmail.com
Fri Jun 5 03:08:14 UTC 2009
Neil Harris wrote:
> John at Darkstar wrote:
>
>> The interesting thing is "who has interest in which users identity".
>> Lets make an example, some organization sets up a site with a honeypot
>> and logs all visitors. Then they correlates that with RC-logs from
>> Wikipedia and then checks out who adds external links back to
>> themselves. They do not need direct access to Wikipedia logs or the raw
>> traffic.
>>
>> There is only one valid reason as I see it to avoid certain stat
>> engines, and that is to block advertising companies from getting
>> information about the readers. The writers does not have any real
>> anonymity at all.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>
> Indeed they could. But even so, they would still have great difficulty
> in getting more than a small fraction of Wikipedia's readers to both
> visit the honeypot and make an edit that links to it, and the vast
> majority of unaffected users will still avoid being bitten by this
> attack. And even then, they will still only have obtained a mapping
> between the user's current IP and their Wikipedia account, and will
> still have to correlate this back to a personal identity, which is often
> harder than it might seem to be in theory.
>
> The world is a dangerous place, but just because privacy and security
> can never be absolute is not a reason to make good faith efforts to
> preserve it as much of both as reasonably possible within the limits of
> time and resources available.
>
> Just because a door can be knocked down with a sledgehammer (or a wall
> demolished with a pneumatic hammer) is not a reason not to have a lock
> on it, or a door there in the first place.
>
> -- Neil
>
>
>
The Finnish folk saying has it that locks are there against
honest folk, not against thieves.
That is any lock can be compromised by determined enough
pursuivants, but are a significant signal and sense that what
is on the other side is not a matter for all passersby.
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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