[Foundation-l] Analysis of statistics

[Pavlo Shevelo]

John,

Thanks a lot - you made my Saturday! ;)

> Is it somehow possible to let newcomers write articles together with
> oldtimers until they learn the most basic things?

But why (?) we suggest that it's impossible?
If we will put that as (realized) aim this is very possible - we
should just to embody in Wikipedia community such thing as
apprenticeship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprenticeship . Isn't it
sorta funny that Wikipedia contain guidelines which seems to be
ignored by project community? ;)

> How
> can we change this, both at a human level and with technical solutions?
...
> Perhaps it is possible
> to make personal sandboxes where they can get some guidance before the
> dogfight starts?

Some people believe that it's good for newcomer to put him/her into
the middle of dogfight from the day1. I'm not really supporter of
that approach - there will be more than enough dogfights in future.
So it's really important (mission-critical in terms of Wikipedia
mission) what happens before the first dogfight.

We have some stuff (RSS-feeds, personal sandboxes etc.) to assist both
grossmeister and apprentice, but sure we should develop some more.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM, John at Darkstar<vacuum at jeb.no> wrote:
>
> How the new contributors are approached by the community is very
> important and it seems like they face a very hostile environment. How
> can we change this, both at a human level and with technical solutions?
> Is it somehow possible to let newcomers write articles together with
> oldtimers until they learn the most basic things? Perhaps it is possible
> to make personal sandboxes where they can get some guidance before the
> dogfight starts?
>
> John
>
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