[Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

[Pedro Sanchez]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>wrote:

> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM,
> > Mike.lifeguard<mikelifeguard at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >> I'm sorry, this is really not something that needs discussion on
> >> foundation-l. This concerns English Wikipedia, and not the wider
> >> Wikimedia community or the Foundation itself. Please consider moving
> >> this discussion back to the project-specific mailing list or the project
> >> itself so to the community for that project can be consulted.
> >
> > Mike, thanks for your comments. Again, there are several reasons why
> > this at least can be, if not should be, discussed here and not just on
> > wikien-l:
> >
> > 1) Mailing lists are foundation projects hosted on the wikimedia.org
> > domain.


And english wikipedia has several mailing lists to deal with its own issues.
Foundation-l  is for wikimedia-wide issues.
This is like justifying that discussing english wikipedia issues would be ok
on the spanish wikinews mailing list (because both are mailing lists hosts
on wikimedia server)


>
> > 2) New lists are set up by a foundation employee who acts in an
> > official functionary capacity.


The "functionaries" thing is an english wikipedia thing. New wikis, new
mailing lists, everything.. is also setup by employees. Yet we have a
mailing list for commons, a mailing list for french wikipedia, etc


>
> > 3) The resolution-l list would not be limited to en.wiki, and an
> > eventual forked for English only usage will, appropriately, be
> > discussed there.


And where's consensus that other wikis want THAT? And it should be proposed
on meta if you want to claim support from all wikimedia


>
> > 4) The issue was discussed on wikien-l and, for some unknown reason,
> > the responsible party did not bother to participate in dealing with a
> > general matter that is, correctly or not, officially charged to him.


So? Moving it up to global mailing list where most people won't care about
english wikipedia will solve it?
If you have troubles with cary deal them with him, stop polluting inboxes
from unrelated parties


>
> > 5) This list has higher visibility.


Alright, so it's all about shouting louder to get what you want


>
> >
> > Any similar questions, comments, or concerns?
> >
> > -Steven
> >
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>
> I am not sure whether you realize for instance that in Russian Wikipedia
> we have conflict resolution rules VERY MUCH different from those in
> English Wikipedia? I am not sure I want to follow a discussion of issues
> which are specific to en.wp (to which I am not a regular contributor) on
> this list.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
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