[Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy

[Philippe|Wiki]

Agreed with Geoffrey, and I never cease to be amazed at how folks find  
a way to say "zOMG!  This Can't Work!" instead of "OK, let's make this  
work."

We've seen a lot of that the last couple of days on this list.

philippe


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On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote:

> I don't think that either the Foundation or Mr. Broughton will be  
> complaining. Drop it.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Klaus Graf <klausgraf at googlemail.com>
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:59:15 AM
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia  
> against Licensing Policy
>
> At
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Title_Page_and_Licensing_Information
>
> we read:
>
> "Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
> under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or
> any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with the
> Invariant Section being the "Author and Publisher Information" and no
> Front-Cover Texts and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is
> included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License"."
>
> This is clearly not compatible with the "official" policy at
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights
>
> "If you contribute material to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to
> the public under the GFDL (with no invariant sections, front-cover
> texts, or back-cover texts)."
>
> On the same page there is a self-contradiction to these clear words:
>
> "Under Wikipedia's current copyright conditions, and with the current
> facilities of the MediaWiki software, it is only possible to include
> in Wikipedia external GFDL materials that contain invariant sections
> or cover texts, if all of the following apply,
> You are the copyright holder of these external GFDL materials (or: you
> have the explicit, i.e. written, permission of the copyright holder to
> do what follows);
> The length and nature of these invariant sections and cover texts does
> not exceed what can be placed in an edit summary;
> You are satisfied that these invariant sections and cover texts are
> not listed elsewhere than in the "page history" of the page where
> these external materials are placed;
> You are satisfied that further copies of Wikipedia content are
> distributed under the standard GFDL application of "with no Invariant
> Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts" (in
> other words, for the copies derived from wikipedia, you agree that
> these parts of the text contributed by you will no longer be
> considered as "invariant sections" or "cover texts" in the GFDL
> sense);
> The original invariant sections and/or cover texts are contained in
> the edit summary of the edit with which you introduce the thus GFDLed
> materials in wikipedia (so, that if "permanent deletion" would be
> applied to that edit, both the thus GFDLed material and its invariant
> sections and cover texts are jointly deleted).
> Seen the stringent conditions above, it is very desirable to replace
> GFDL texts with invariant sections (or with cover texts) by original
> content without invariant sections (or cover texts) whenever
> possible."
>
> I cannot see that the quoted copyright notice fits these conditions.
>
> Klaus Graf
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