[Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

John Vandenberg jayvdb at gmail.com
Sat Jan 24 08:34:32 UTC 2009

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Nikola Smolenski <smolensk at eunet.yu> wrote:
> On Saturday 24 January 2009 08:48:56 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> When the CIA or any other American governmental organisation has something
>> to share that is of benefit to us, we should be gracious and thankful and
>> accept and reflect what boon we have been given. Recently we accepted some
>> advice from Apple. The people around the UNICEF usability extensions have
>> worked to make their software functional on head. There is a lot of great
>> work done outside of the WMF and it is at our collective loss when all this
>> important work is ditched.
>> If you think the CIA is evil per definition, fine. It does not change one
>> iota the effort that Brion will put into checking into their code or anyone
>> else's code. In the end the code makes it obvious if the CIA is evil in
>> this.
> CIA is evil by definition. If they offer you something, it will be something
> that may seem to be beneficial for you, but will in fact benefit them. Given
> that CIA has much more resources than you, you can never be sure if their
> help will in fact be detrimental to you.

Is the NSA also evil, because the created selinux and gave it to the
open source community?

open source is a non-zero sum game.  In open source, an improvement is
able to be beneficial to everyone even when the donator was being
selfish and building it only for their own needs.

John Vandenberg

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