[Foundation-l] Board resolutions (chapters)

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
When the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is because of a fear that a
commercial organisation plays one chapter against another, I fail to agree
that this is a good reason. Obviously chapters are involved in such
negotiations, that is not the point.

I am quite ok with chapters being different. What I fail to understand is
what it is that chapters are expected to do. Let me sketch a scenario. A
Dutch group wants their chapter only to be a society while another group
wants to organise things engage in dialogue with archives, musea. These two
visions are worlds apart. When you are unlucky you end up with a fight. When
both groups can do their thing, there is no need for this. When the WMF
prohibits two organisations, it will be a recurring fight.
Thanks,
     GerardM

2009/1/20 Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de>

> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > So the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is possible commercial
> > nastiness ???? Does the NYC have a license to negotiate as much as
> another
> > USA (sub)-chapter have.
> Yes, inside their own areas.
>
> >  What is left for the Wikimedia Foundation itself ?
> >
> Why, the WMF has enough things to do, and in my opinion can still do more.
>
> But what the WMF don't want to be is very clear it doesn't want to be a
> USA-chapter.
> > How do you make commercial organisations split along "our" lines ?
> >
> I don't quite understand this question. The german chapter for example
> had long doing commercials in Germany if you will.
> > As I learn more about chapters, I come to my conclusion that they are a
> > confused hodgepodge of conflicting ideas. The notion what the essence of
> a
> > chapter is is no longer clear at all.  I would really LOVE some clear
> > structured text that explains the notion of the chapter and explains what
> > its responsibilities are.
> >
> Gerard, the world is not a unity (may I say thank Gods for that?). What
> works in Germany may not work in Taiwan, may not even work in France or
> the Netherlands. As someone had already pointed out in this thread, the
> french chapter is very different as the german. So, there would be NO
> clear definition of how a standard chapter should look like. The ChapCom
> has a set of criterias before it would recommend an organisation to the
> board as a chapter. That's it mainly.
>
> Greetings
> Ting
>
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