[Foundation-l] Remembering the People (was Fundraiser update)

Marc Riddell michaeldavid86 at comcast.net
Sat Jan 10 20:35:45 UTC 2009

>> on 1/10/09 6:59 AM, David Gerard at dgerard at gmail.com wrote:
>>> I note that I have asked you before if you've actually attempted to
>>> work directly with the community on-wiki, and you demurred:
>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-January/097693.html
>>> You claim to be defending the community in the abstract, but don't
>>> appear to want to put in the effort to actually work directly with the
>>> people in said community.
2009/1/10 Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net>:

>> David, if you mean the endless, circular, defensive battles that go on in
>> the Talk Pages of the English Wikipedia, no; I am not willing to put what
>> time I have there. The objective in such warfare seems to be to win at any
>> cost; not a discussion to resolve issues in a cause both sides of the
>> argument supposedly believe in and want to improve. There needs to be a
>> better mechanism for such discussions; or, at least, a culture more skilled
>> in the process of arbitration and decision making.
on 1/10/09 9:48 AM, David Gerard at dgerard at gmail.com wrote:
> Yes, people are difficult to work with and remain the key problem in
> dealing with them. What do you propose to deal with this?

It is the process of communication that is the problem, David, not the
people. The process - not the people. Learn the difference.

Marc Riddell

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