[Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

[John Vandenberg]

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Brian Salter-Duke
<b_duke at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:05:43PM +0800, H wrote:
>> Brian,
>> It is usually the responsibility of the proposer to notify the
>> community.  I am very surprised that no one did.

It was added to the here a day later.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Bulletin/News&diff=1127389&oldid=1122625

> They notified the simple community but did not mention that you had to
> "prove" yourslef before commenting.

The requirement often used is that users need to have a edit on one of
the projects _before_ the commencement of the vote begins on meta.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects#cite_note-0

>> Very early on I have asked the proposer to join the community and help
>> fix the problems, and later again asked them to go back to the
>> beginning to the original proposal of wikipedia:simple:
>
> I noticed that. Very sensible.
>
>> However you cannot talk when everybody has already got er finger on er
>> trigger ready to shoot their {{support}} or {{oppose}}.
>>
>> It may be an interesting idea requiring a discussion on the local
>> project to close it.  However, meta is useful as a cross-wiki
>> platform, and most closures requests are about inactive wikis, which
>> are much less contraversial, and in which case "discussion on the
>> local project" wouldn't work.
>
> I agree. This discussion is quite different from a discussion on a small
> wp that never got off the ground. It matters.

Another example of discussion that matters is the discussion that
mostly focused on English Wikiquote:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum/On_disbanding_Wikiquote

It is interesting to note that the Wikiquote discussion was closed
because there were plans to clean it up, however the 25 longest pages
are the same pages from 5 months ago.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:LongPages
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Forum/On_disbanding_Wikiquote&diff=1180109&oldid=1180071

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John Vandenberg