[Foundation-l] NPOV as common value? (was Re: Board statement regarding biographies of living people)

Anthony wikimail at inbox.org
Fri Apr 24 04:05:41 UTC 2009


I'm not sure what the answer is, and I agree with you that it's not easily
resolved, but it seems to me that some sort of neutrality policy ought to
apply to Commons.

In my opinion the universal form of the NPOV policy is simple - be honest.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mike.lifeguard
<mikelifeguard at fastmail.fm>wrote:

> I would love to see these adopted for Commons photographers. The issue
> will become knowing when these principles are being violated. For
> example, if you're going to alter audio to serve your own POV, you're
> not going to make it obvious you've done so. Detection is one problem,
> but even if you've detected that the audio was edited, there's no
> telling what the audio should have been, and whether the editing was
> deceptive. So, as a practical matter, I don't see that this is easily
> resolved. As a matter of principle, I think these represent an ideal we
> should strive for as a community.
>
> -Mike
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 12:57 -0400, Anthony wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Brianna Laugher <
> > > brianna.laugher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> 2009/4/21 Michael Snow <wikipedia at verizon.net>:
> > >> > The Wikimedia Foundation takes this opportunity to reiterate some
> core
> > >> > principles related to our shared vision, mission, and values. One of
> > >> > these values which is common to all our projects is a commitment to
> > >> > maintaining a neutral point of view.
> > >>
> > >> I find it a bit strange to talk of Wikimedia Commons as having a NPOV
> > >> policy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Should commons allow images which are biased?
> > >
> > > More concretely, in terms of photography, should photographs adhere to
> the
> > > standards of ethics adopted by photojournalists?
> > >
> >
> > Here's the NPPA Code of ethics:
> >
> >    1. Be accurate and comprehensive in the representation of subjects.
> >    2. Resist being manipulated by staged photo opportunities.
> >    3. Be complete and provide context when photographing or recording
> >    subjects. Avoid stereotyping individuals and groups. Recognize and
> work to
> >    avoid presenting one's own biases in the work.
> >    4. Treat all subjects with respect and dignity. Give special
> >    consideration to vulnerable subjects and compassion to victims of
> crime or
> >    tragedy. Intrude on private moments of grief only when the public has
> an
> >    overriding and justifiable need to see.
> >    5. While photographing subjects do not intentionally contribute to,
> >    alter, or seek to alter or influence events.
> >    6. Editing should maintain the integrity of the photographic images'
> >    content and context. Do not manipulate images or add or alter sound in
> any
> >    way that can mislead viewers or misrepresent subjects.
> >    7. Do not pay sources or subjects or reward them materially for
> >    information or participation.
> >    8. Do not accept gifts, favors, or compensation from those who might
> seek
> >    to influence coverage.
> >    9. Do not intentionally sabotage the efforts of other journalists.
> >
> > 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 8 all deal with neutrality.  Should they apply to
> > photos made for commons?
> >
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