[Foundation-l] STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!
Crazy Lover
always_yours.forever at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 3 21:39:06 UTC 2008
you don't understand anything. the nab is the policy. if a language is "dead" (no longer native speakers) don't meet the wikimedia language proposal policy. Applying the rules, any latin projects must be reject. It is not admisible that langcom don't apply with equality the rule.
And in other mail i said, Eastern greek ortodoxe church use ancient greek as official language, as language work.
cml
--- On Wed, 9/3/08, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
From: geni <geniice at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!
To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:32 PM
2008/9/3 Crazy Lover <always_yours.forever at yahoo.com>:
> there are two request
>
> for a ancient greek wikipedia:
>
>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ancient_Greek_3
>
> and for a latin wikinews:
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> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina
>
> both are ancient languages, with NO NATIVE SPEAKERS. then they don't
meet the policy, both.
>
> The first one was proposed in 26 august, and the second since 07 june (04
months!!!).
>
> GerardM, intermediately closed the greek request, but allow to remain the
latin one.
>
> or both must reject or continue
>
>
>
> what are you problem? What are the interests?, why do not apply with
equality the rules?
>
>
> STOP!!! APPLY DOUBLE STANDARD!!!
>
> STOP!!! HYPOCRISY!!!
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>
>
> Cml.
Not double standards because the two are not remotely equivalent.
Ancient greek is a fairly typical dead language. It's understood by
academics and a few enthusiasts. The corpus of modern work is
extremely limited and the general public has little interaction with
it. There is some use by a church but it is only slightly above Coptic
in that respect.
Latin is technically dead yes but that is very much a technicality.
It's understood by both a wider set of academics and various catholic
church officials. The corpus of modern work is rather extensive with
both the official Vatican publications and various other groups
producing regular material. Then you have to remember that there are
the so called silver surfers online. You don't have to go back that
far that every British public school boy and a fair chunk of the
grammar school pupils would have had a fair coverage of latin. Then of
course there is the pre-VC2 latin rite. Every church going catholic
prior to the 60s would have had a high level of interaction with
latin. Then there are the various Latin inscriptions on older public
buildings and the like.
Latin has also done something of a better job of hanging on around the
edges. For example in english AD the various legal phrases quotations
alea iacta est (and no end of religious stuff Ave maria etc)
ancient greek? aside from modern greek kyrie eleison ΙΧΘΥΣ. Deus ex
machina is about it in terms of secular stuff. Even a recent popular
film hasn't raised "Molōn labe!" to the level of say "Veni,
vidi,
vici"
In short among the dead languages Latin stands apart and cannot be
used to support the case of any other.
--
geni
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