[Foundation-l] We have the problem

[Birgitte SB]

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Nathan
> <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You have to consider, Milos, that these very real
> problems you identify may
> > not be amenable to a global solution.
> 
> There is one important issue which I missed to emphasize. I
> haven't
> listed the problems which we should solve after which we
> would be
> fine. I've listed the problems which are produced by
> the systematic
> problem, which may be worded as 'we don't care a
> lot'. The part of
> that systematic problem from the past -- we didn't care
> a lot --
> brought us to the situation where we are not able to list
> our
> functional problems.
> 
> So, I don't think that we have to start to work on
> particular problems
> (if they are not urgent). We have to start to work on the
> systematic
> problem.

I must disagree that the systematic problem is that we don't care enough.  I would say it is that we cannot communicate effectively.  The barriers to communication throughout Wikimedia are real and not just due to some lack of caring.   

Birgitte SB