[Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Nov 26 06:13:19 UTC 2008


Hoi,
Do not forget the als.wikipedia.org. It stands for Alsatian, but the als
code is the Tosk language. The "gsw" code is the code that should have been
used.
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=gsw

The nrm.wikipedia is also using a wrong code. nrm is Narom, a language from
Malaysia. Nourmande is not recognised as a language, consequently there is
no code available for it. I propose to use qaa for this.
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/scope.asp#R
Thanks,
      Gerard<




2008/11/26 Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby at gmail.com>

> Don't forget zh-yue → yue and zh-min-nan → nan; these languages have got
> valid ISO 639-3 codes since creation. Also, als should be moved to gsw (als
> is the code for Tosk Albanian, while als in Wikimedia is Alemannisch - not
> even close to Tosk Albanian).
>
> 2008/11/26 Brion Vibber <brion at wikimedia.org>
>
> > For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our
> > system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that
> > make automatic relationships between the database name and the domain
> > name, so this has delayed renaming of some language subdomains for a
> while.
> >
> > It's not impossible to have them be different, just fairly awkward. :)
> >
> > I'd like to get these done soon, but before we get started, I want to
> > make sure the queue is complete and ready to go. I've currently got four
> > language code renames that I see being requested...
> >
> > == Aromanian ==
> >
> > roa-rup.wikipedia.org -> rup.wikipedia.org
> > roa-rup.wiktionary.org -> rup.wiktionary.org
> >
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988
> >
> > ISO-639-2 code 'rup' was added in September 2005, and can supersede the
> > generic 'roa' code with 'rup' subtag.
> >
> > This seems pretty uncontroversial. Existing domains and interwikis would
> > be redirected.
> >
> >
> > == Low German ==
> >
> > nds.wikipedia.org -> nds-de.wikipedia.org
> > nds.wikibooks.org -> nds-de.wikibooks.org
> > nds.wikiquote.org -> nds-de.wikiquote.org
> > nds.wiktionary.org -> nds-de.wiktionary.org
> >
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8540
> >
> > Reasoning: Disambiguation of country variants to create a portal site
> > (nds-nl.wikipedia.org exists as well).
> >
> > The original request is almost 2 years old and didn't seem to have any
> > clear consensus; is this still desired?
> >
> > Creating a portal site could cause difficulties with URL compatibility,
> > and I don't really recommend making this change without clear consensus
> > from the community there.
> >
> > Note that nds.wikipedia.org includes a link on the front page to
> > nds-nl.wikipedia.org.
> >
> >
> > == Moldovan ==
> >
> > mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org
> > mo.wiktionary.org -> mo-cyrl.wiktionary.org
> >
> > The official Moldovan language is the same as Romanian, using Latin
> > script and same orthography as on ro.wikipedia.org. Latin script was
> > officially adopted in 1989, replacing Soviet-era Cyrillic script; use of
> > Cyrillic script is still "official" in an unrecognized,
> > lightly-populated breakaway region but if people there use it, they
> > don't seem to edit Wikipedia...
> >
> > The 'mo' language code has been officially deprecated from ISO 639-1/2
> > as of November 3, 2008; "Moldovan" in general use is just Romanian, and
> > is covered by ro.wikipedia.org.
> >
> > mo.wikipedia.org has not actually been edited since December 2006.
> > mo.wiktionary.org seems to have.... 4 definition pages, which only
> > contain translations (no definitions!) Being inactive, these projects
> > could be closed in addition to / instead of the rename.
> >
> > Use of tag 'mo-cyrl' would follow existing IANA-registered language
> > subtags such as 'bs-Cyrl' and 'bs-Latn' for Cyrillic and Latin script
> > variants.
> >
> > Most likely, for compatibility we would redirect the existing 'mo' URLs
> > to the new 'mo-cyrl' ones, but they would now be visibly marked by the
> > subtag as being "yes we know, it's Cyrillic here". If we're going to
> > lock the site as well, adding a sitenotice pointing to the Romanian wiki
> > is probably wise.
> >
> >
> > == Belorusian "old orthography" ==
> >
> > be-x-old.wikipedia.org -> be-tarask.wikipedia.org
> >
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9823
> >
> > Some time ago we swapped around the Belorusian Wikipedia, moving the
> > previous version which was primarily using a non-official orthography,
> > from 'be' to 'be-x-old', and re-establishing be.wikipedia.org using the
> > official state orthography.
> >
> > There was later a request to rename 'be-x-old' (using a non-standard
> > code) to 'be-tarask', a IANA-registered subtag which is rather more
> > descriptive. IMHO this change should not be terribly controversial -- if
> > we're not closing it, we may as well give it its official RFC
> > 4646-registered code.
> >
> > Old domain and interwikis would be redirected.
> >
> >
> > -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
> >
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