[Foundation-l] Language codes to rename

[Mark Williamson]

There have been no edits at mo.wikipedia or mo.wiktionary because both
databases are locked.

Mark

2008/11/25 Brion Vibber <brion at wikimedia.org>:
> For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our
> system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that
> make automatic relationships between the database name and the domain
> name, so this has delayed renaming of some language subdomains for a while.
>
> It's not impossible to have them be different, just fairly awkward. :)
>
> I'd like to get these done soon, but before we get started, I want to
> make sure the queue is complete and ready to go. I've currently got four
> language code renames that I see being requested...
>
> == Aromanian ==
>
> roa-rup.wikipedia.org -> rup.wikipedia.org
> roa-rup.wiktionary.org -> rup.wiktionary.org
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988
>
> ISO-639-2 code 'rup' was added in September 2005, and can supersede the
> generic 'roa' code with 'rup' subtag.
>
> This seems pretty uncontroversial. Existing domains and interwikis would
> be redirected.
>
>
> == Low German ==
>
> nds.wikipedia.org -> nds-de.wikipedia.org
> nds.wikibooks.org -> nds-de.wikibooks.org
> nds.wikiquote.org -> nds-de.wikiquote.org
> nds.wiktionary.org -> nds-de.wiktionary.org
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8540
>
> Reasoning: Disambiguation of country variants to create a portal site
> (nds-nl.wikipedia.org exists as well).
>
> The original request is almost 2 years old and didn't seem to have any
> clear consensus; is this still desired?
>
> Creating a portal site could cause difficulties with URL compatibility,
> and I don't really recommend making this change without clear consensus
> from the community there.
>
> Note that nds.wikipedia.org includes a link on the front page to
> nds-nl.wikipedia.org.
>
>
> == Moldovan ==
>
> mo.wikipedia.org -> mo-cyrl.wikipedia.org
> mo.wiktionary.org -> mo-cyrl.wiktionary.org
>
> The official Moldovan language is the same as Romanian, using Latin
> script and same orthography as on ro.wikipedia.org. Latin script was
> officially adopted in 1989, replacing Soviet-era Cyrillic script; use of
> Cyrillic script is still "official" in an unrecognized,
> lightly-populated breakaway region but if people there use it, they
> don't seem to edit Wikipedia...
>
> The 'mo' language code has been officially deprecated from ISO 639-1/2
> as of November 3, 2008; "Moldovan" in general use is just Romanian, and
> is covered by ro.wikipedia.org.
>
> mo.wikipedia.org has not actually been edited since December 2006.
> mo.wiktionary.org seems to have.... 4 definition pages, which only
> contain translations (no definitions!) Being inactive, these projects
> could be closed in addition to / instead of the rename.
>
> Use of tag 'mo-cyrl' would follow existing IANA-registered language
> subtags such as 'bs-Cyrl' and 'bs-Latn' for Cyrillic and Latin script
> variants.
>
> Most likely, for compatibility we would redirect the existing 'mo' URLs
> to the new 'mo-cyrl' ones, but they would now be visibly marked by the
> subtag as being "yes we know, it's Cyrillic here". If we're going to
> lock the site as well, adding a sitenotice pointing to the Romanian wiki
> is probably wise.
>
>
> == Belorusian "old orthography" ==
>
> be-x-old.wikipedia.org -> be-tarask.wikipedia.org
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9823
>
> Some time ago we swapped around the Belorusian Wikipedia, moving the
> previous version which was primarily using a non-official orthography,
> from 'be' to 'be-x-old', and re-establishing be.wikipedia.org using the
> official state orthography.
>
> There was later a request to rename 'be-x-old' (using a non-standard
> code) to 'be-tarask', a IANA-registered subtag which is rather more
> descriptive. IMHO this change should not be terribly controversial -- if
> we're not closing it, we may as well give it its official RFC
> 4646-registered code.
>
> Old domain and interwikis would be redirected.
>
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
>
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