[Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia.org

[Cetateanu Moldovanu]

I'm sorry to see you people to not understand at all the problem, this
problem doesn't have anything in common with serbian-croatian or
israelic-arabic issues.
The problem is what we changed our script, and we want this to be reflected
on your mo.wikipedia

For god sake, just open your own page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldovan_language for one minute, read the
first sentence, "*Moldovan* (also *Moldavian*;
Romanian<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language>:
*limba moldovenească*), written in the Latin
script<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet>"
now open http://mo.wikipedia.org/<http://mo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D3%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8D>
and
look in what scripting is it.
Doesn't this create confusions around you people and everyone around the
world  ?! "Moldovan language is written in the Latin script" but still
somehow http://mo.wikipedia.org/<http://mo.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D3%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8D>
is
in cyrillic.

I don't understand people commenting on our issue without understanding it,
or comparing it's situation with other absolutely unrelated to our.

There is not any nationalism here, you just got our language wrongly. Don't
you think this is something what should be important for us, and it
is something absolutely normal what we are bringing this question over and
over again ? Wouldn't you do the same if the script of your language were
got wrongly by the biggest encyclopedia in the world ? Wouldn't that hurt
you ? Wouldn't you write in the same way I'm writing in this moment ?
**
Now, I understand it is hard to delete something, but at least please rename
it to mo_cyrillic to make it clear that this is Moldovian language with
cyrillic scripts.

>phoebe ayers wrote:
>but that is not the way our projects work. Instead, (as you know, Gerard)
people step up to work on the issues that interest them.

So, your "Board members" have enough abilities to accept something, and now
you are telling me that you are seeking for a volunteer to do your job ? By
taking the responsibility to open something please follow your duties and
make sure it was a right decision. And please don't tell me you never make
mistakes.

>phoebe ayers wrote:
>Our Board members work hard on behalf of the projects, but they are not
specially endowed with the ability to second-guess the ISO,

Then how this "Board members" have voted the mo. wikipedia languages if they
" are not specially endowed with the ability " ?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de> wrote:

>  phoebe ayers wrote:
> > Because I'm sure the Board will be *thrilled* to get involved in a
> > dispute that involves nationalism, factionalism, complicated
> > linguistics, hurt feelings, confusion about what's "true", and heated
> > debate and assumptions of poor faith on all sides. Come on. How is the
> > Board supposed to determine what the best outcome is when the
> > community members involved can't get anywhere near consensus? (Or can
> > they? I confess to not reading these threads closely). Our Board
> > members work hard on behalf of the projects, but they are not
> > specially endowed with the ability to second-guess the ISO, to make
> > decisions for community members about what to call the language they
> > speak, or (alas!) to prevent deep-rooted drama about such matters.
> > It's easy to think that things would be so much easier if only the
> > right person was in charge so *someone* could make a decision... but
> > that is not the way our projects work. Instead, (as you know, Gerard)
> > people step up to work on the issues that interest them. Sure, the
> > Board could choose to nuke all the Wikipedias where people can't agree
> > on what language they are written in. But that's not so much of a
> > solution as a "please shut up about this issue already!" statement.*
> >
> > -- phoebe
> >
> > * Which, I grant you, as an uninvolved party seems pretty darn
> > appealing some days.
> >
> > p.s. Aren't some of the wikis in two or more scripts? I recall that at
> > least a couple of them have multiple tabs at the top where you can
> > switch between scripts if you like. Is that somehow not an option in
> > this case?
> >
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> well, I see quite some issues lurking arround that involves nationalism,
> factionalism and hurt feelings. At the moment none of them are acute,
> but on the long run we must be prepared to deal with these issues. What
> gives me hope, are the many examples where the communities show their
> willing to collaborate with each other and to show good faith for each
> other, for example between the serbian and the croatian community or
> between the israelic and the arabic community, just to mention two
> excellent examples.
>
> Ting
>
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