[Foundation-l] Fwd: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
With the ISO 639-3 standard we have the best standard that is available. It
is the only standard that ties in with what we do; publish on the Internet.
When you know about the policies of the language committee, you would know
that it only expresses opinions about requests for new projects and
languages. The question of what I personally find is not that relevant as a
consequence.

I am not interested into our Moldavian issue per se, I have found and I
still find that it is very much a political issue. An issue that has been
dealt with by the closure of the wiki. When I look at how comparable
situations were dealt with elsewhere, I am not impressed. Let it be clear
that the mo code is still legal. It may still be used.
Thanks,
      Gerard

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Marcus Buck <me at marcusbuck.org> wrote:

> Gerard Meijssen hett schreven:
> > Hoi,
> > Today I received the following e-mail. It demonstrates clearly that
> issues
> > in the ISO-639 standard are dealt with eventually.
> > Thanks,
> >         GerardM
> >
> It demonstrates that issues are dealt with when somebody complains about
> it. But it too demonstrates, that ISO codes are not a reliable base for
> decisions. They made errors when deciding on the original set of codes
> and codes can change when issues arise. This means that the language
> subcommittee shouldn't use the criterion "own ISO code exists" as a
> precondition. At the moment decisions of the language subcommittee are
> heavily based on the existence of ISO codes. There are many proposals
> for new languages where GerardM based the decision"eligible/not
> eligible" on the existence of an ISO code.
>
> Btw: At the time, the Moldovan Wikipedia was proposed for closure, the
> ISO code of course still existed. GerardM opposed the closure then. I'd
> be interested what GerardM's position would be, if the Moldovan
> Wikipedia wouldn't have been closed then and it would still exist. If
> there were a proposal to close a still existing Moldovan Wikipedia today
> (after the ISO code change), what would be GerardM's position on it?
>
> Marcus Buck
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Håvard Hjulstad <HHj at standard.no>
> > Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM
> > Subject: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
> >
> >  The ISO 639 Registration Authorities' Joint Advisory Committee has
> decided:
> >
> >
> >
> > The identifiers *mo* and *mol* are deprecated
> >
> > leaving *ro* and *ron/rum* the current language identifiers to be used
> for
> > the variant of the Romanian language also known as *Moldavian* and
> *Moldovan
> > * in English and *moldave* in French. (The identifier *ron* is used in
> the
> > ISO 639-2 T table; the identifier *rum* in the ISO 639-2 B table.)
> >
> >
> >
> > The identifiers *mo* and *mol* will not be assigned to different items,
> and
> > recordings using these identifiers will not be invalid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Håvard Hjulstad
> >
>
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