[Foundation-l] En.wikipedia's arbcom

Fri May 30 00:31:48 UTC 2008

Andrew Grey the 4th person replying to my overly delayed original post has
already stated that. It was pointless for me to say so.

I have been defending myself from the attacks directed at me. I might have
ignored it but I am not required to do so.

I will not be manupilated like that. :)

As for your PS, thats too late of a warning naw :)

    - White Cat

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:37 PM, White Cat
> <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't forum shop. 100% of the time you replied to something I post you
> > accused me of things.
> >
> > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM, White Cat
> >> <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Politely asking people to stop rather than ordering them around can do
> >> > wonders. You are right though. With this much bad faith a productive
> >> result
> >> > is not a possibility.
> >> >
> >> >   - White Cat
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Jon <scream at datascreamer.com> wrote:
> >> >
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> >> >> Ben McIlwain wrote:
> >> >> > White Cat wrote:
> >> >> >> Mistreating me is a popular trend I see. Shouldn't you be
> apologizing
> >> to
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> (for delaying this for this long) instead of patronizing me?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Playing the victim complex isn't helping you win anyone over to
> your
> >> >> > point of view.  When people start acting like they're the victim
> ...
> >> >> > well, that's what they become.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
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> >> >> This thread needs to end.  Does the software permit per thread
> >> moderation?
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Jon
> >> >>
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> >> Could you *please* stop forum-shopping then? This isn't the first time
> >> you're told something and you come to Foundation-l looking for a
> different
> >> answer.
> >>
> >> -Chad
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> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:51 PM, White Cat
> <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> - Show quoted text -
> > Like I implied on my earlier post. Regulating it would be much easier and
> > time consuming from a central location: Meta.
> >
> >   - White Cat
> >
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:22 PM, mike.lifeguard <
> mike.lifeguard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Wikibooks has the same problem - interwiki linking is rather more
> >> complicated for the non-Wikipedia project. I think it would be
> acceptable
> >> to
> >> give a global bot flag BUT bots are only to work where approved (ie not
> on
> >> Wikibooks unless you ask first; not on Wikisource if you ask first).
> This
> >> allows stewards to not waste time flagging a bot on all Wikipedias (use
> the
> >> global flag) but the bot should then only work on Wikipedias (unless it
> is
> >> allowed to work on the other families).
> >> However, thoughts on this may differ. I know many don't agree that
> >> people/bots are able to /not/ use rights they have, but that's just not
> >> true. Just because a bot is globally flagged as such doesn't mean it
> must
> >> work on all wikis - it is quite easy to restrict it to only one family.
> >>
> >> Mike.lifeguard
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Birgitte SB [mailto:birgitte_sb at yahoo.com]
> >> Sent: May 29, 2008 3:23 PM
> >> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] Bot policy for all wikis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 5/28/08, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] Bot policy for all wikis
> >> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <
> >> foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 10:51 PM
> >> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
> >> > <putevod at mccme.ru> wrote:
> >> > > We do have a bot policy:
> >> > >
> >> > > [[:meta:Bot policy]]
> >> > >
> >> > > It is implemented in all small wikipedias I am active.
> >> > Bot owners (in
> >> > > theory) leave a request at a special bot page, if
> >> > there are no objections
> >> > > within a reasonable time (a week or so), the steward
> >> > grants the bot
> >> > > status. Once I had to report on meta and actually ask
> >> > stewards to grant
> >> > > the bot flag for some of the old requests on os.wp.
> >> > >
> >> > > You may be sure the small wikis suffer much more when
> >> > a bot can not get
> >> > > the status since the list of recent changes becomes
> >> > unusable - this is for
> >> > > instance what is right now happening with the newly
> >> > created wikis.
> >> >
> >> > This is one of the most problematic issues: Asking for bot
> >> > flag on
> >> > ~250 projects is really painful. There should be one place
> >> > for asking
> >> > the bot flag for interwiki bots.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Please no global flag for interwiki bots.  An all Wikipedia flag would
> be
> >> fine but not a global one.  Interwiki's to not work in a strait forward
> >> fashion on Wikisource and bots using the code that works on Wikipedias
> >> create a big mess on Wikisource.  Interwikis bots will probably only be
> >> able
> >> to be work properly off of a "white-list" on Wikisources.  These
> white-list
> >> have not yet been made so for right now interwikis need to be done by
> hand.
> >> Please do not authorize any bots to do this task on Wikisources.
> >>
> >>
> >> Birgitte SB
> >>
> >> Birgitte SB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> It's been pointed out that this was already discussed elsewhere. I no
> longer subscribe to Wikien-l, so I cannot personally say what the
> resolution
> to such discussion was.
>
> "Sorry, this was held in moderation and is now out of context," would've
> been
> an appropriate first response. The fact that you're continuing to debate it
> when
> others pointed out it's been debated elsewhere comes across as trying to
> get
> a different answer from before.
>
> -Chad
>
> PS: Please disregard my posting this to a different thread, that was
> entirely
> unintentional.
>
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