[Foundation-l] Election rules modification regarding suffrageissues raised on this list

[Philippe Beaudette]

I'd just like to highlight (so no one is confused) that there actually '' is 
'' an exception for sysadmins.

In the past couple of years that I've been on the committee, I haven't been 
told of an issue with developers having the required edits (yes, I agree, 
poor thing to judge upon but just about all we have).  If that's an issue 
and there actually are developers who are disenfranchised (as opposed to 
hypotheticals), please encourage them to email me or any member of the 
committee and we'll see what we can do to work with them.

Philippe

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From: "phoebe ayers" <phoebe.wiki at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:48 PM
To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Election rules modification regarding 
suffrageissues raised on this list

> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Majorly <axel9891 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 30/04/2008, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  > Just as a matter of clarity. Can the 50 edits be spread across
>>  > different projects?
>>  > Do internal wikis count?
>>  >
>>  > I'm just afraid I'm not gonna have the required number of edits on any
>>  > one wiki. And I consider myself kind of "up to date" to be allowed to
>>  > vote.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Delphine
>>  >
>>
>>  Delphine - it's seriously not difficult to get 50 edits. I myself have 
>> made
>>  over 1000 in one hour just on recent changes patrol. 50 edits is tiny, 
>> and
>>  considering all the tools available, it really shouldn't be very 
>> difficult
>>  to get 50 edits.
>
> Well, I just took an hour to make 18 edits ;) But then, I was doing
> research to source a biography. I have been known to take an hour to
> make just one or two edits, doing the same kind of work. 50 edits may
> or may not be a lot of work, depending on just what it is you're doing
> onwiki and how familiar you are with the tools.
>
> Generally, editcountitis is a fairly poor measure of community
> participation -- it's just the only readily accessible metric we've
> got. Nathan said it very well up-thread -- people whose contributions
> don't translate into edits shouldn't be penalized. It seems pretty
> obvious to me that Delphine, and the volunteer sysadmins, and others
> in a similar position are clearly community members and should clearly
> have the right to vote regardless of their RC patrolling skills. It
> seems like there's a few classes of exceptions that could be easily
> made in the election rules without over-compromising the process;
> developers and sysadmins are the people that have come up the most so
> far.
>
> Regardless, thanks to the election committee for explaining your
> reasoning on the matter.
>
> -- phoebe
>
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