[Foundation-l] Advertisement and service at the same time

Jimmy Wales jwales at wikia.com
Sat Mar 22 20:47:32 UTC 2008


I don't know of anyone, even among those advocating for advertisements, 
who advocates putting them in article space.

White Cat wrote:
> Well. "United States Holocaust Memorial Museum" doesn't strike as a problem
> unless you are on the perspective that denies the holocaust. We disregard
> such minority opinions for the most part, which is fine. But wait till you
> get to topics like Palestine and Israel...
> 
> Let's assume advertisements are assigned to articles randomly and not in an
> Adsense manner... Adsense would be more problematic on occasions
> particularly on controversial topics.
> 
>    - An Israeli tourism advertisement on an article about Palestinian may
>    be problematic.
>    - An Israeli tourism advertisement on an article about Iran may be
>    problematic.
>    - An Israeli tourism advertisement on an article about cheese may not
>    be problematic.
>    - An Israeli tourism advertisement on an article about Toyota may not
>    be problematic.
> 
> Likewise
> 
>    - A Ford advertisement on an article about Palestinian may not be
>    problematic.
>    - A Ford advertisement on an article about Iran may be problematic.
>    - A Ford advertisement on an article about cheese may not be
>    problematic.
>    - A Ford advertisement on an article about Toyota may be problematic.
> 
> 
> What I am trying to say is how do we know with 100% certainty we are with a
> situation where an advertisement shows up at a problematic article? An
> advertisement that is not problematic on one article may be problematic
> elsewhere.
> 
>    - White Cat
> 
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> 
>> White Cat wrote:
>>>  Joke aside, what kind of an advertisement
>>> would we put on an article on the second world war or a pharaoh from
>> ancient
>>> Egypt.
>> Just for discussion purposes, the two ads I see on google right now for
>> "World War II" are for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, and
>> for World War II History magazine.
>>
>> The Museum advertisement leads to a special section of their website
>> focussing on D-Day.  From my cursory reading of it as a non-specialist,
>> it does not appear to be POV pushing.  It is an educational site about
>> the war.
>>
>> At Britannica,
>> http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9110199/World-War-II
>>
>> I see a banner at the top, apparently unrelated to the content (for
>> Advair, an asthma medication).  Further down, I see an advertisement for
>> the Lincoln Navigator, a giant SUV car thing.  And I see an
>> advertisement for the University of Phoenix.  And another ad for the
>> University of Phoenix.  And the google ads.  (I am not even counting
>> their ads for their own products.)
>>
>> Interestingly enough, at Ask.com, I see no advertisements for "World War
>> II".
>>
>> At Yahoo, I see a series of text ads similar to google's (though, more
>> of them).
>>
>> A search for "Tutankhamun" at Google (the most popular pharoah I
>> suppose), shows 3 advertisements for tickets to the Tutankhamun exhibit,
>> which is currently in London.
>>
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