[Foundation-l] Ads and monobook

White Cat wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com
Wed Mar 19 21:57:03 UTC 2008


People who edit wikipedia are a very tiny minority of the peole who actually
use wikipedia. Most annoying thing on any website is the stupid
advertisements that get in the way.

  - White Cat

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's assume projects can opt-out, and this must be approved
> by the Board (as they are ultimately responsible for fiscal
> matters). For the sake of arguments, let's pretend enwiki came
> to a fairly clear consensus that they wished to opt-out of WMF
> ads. Wouldn't this basically kill the entire ads cash-cow right
> there?
>
> Now, continuing this scenario, I can imagine the Board would
> probably reject an opt-out from the largest project. This begs
> the question: does the Foundation see all projects in an
> equal light?
>
> -Chad
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> >  Having individual people opt out of ads is no problem. You can already
> do
> >  this by including add stoppers in your browser. This is no issue.
> >
> >  When projects opt out, it means that they are not part of the solution.
> In
> >  the past the question was asked what the consequences would be for a
> project
> >  that opts out. When opt out for projects are accepted, one modifier
> would be
> >  to have another skin that is free of adverts, it not being the default
> skin.
> >
> >  The biggest question that nobody is asking is, what would the technical
> >  requirements be for an add provider. We could consider things like
> >  completely anonymous adds ie the same adds for everyone on the same
> page.
> >  Maybe with a modifier for the language selected by a user..
> >  Thanks,
> >     GerardM
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > On the subject of ads, I have a question. Given that all registered
> users
> >  > can
> >  > edit their WP stylesheet to suit their needs, /if/ ads were added,
> what's
> >  > to
> >  > keep the registered users from putting something like .ads {display:
> >  > none;}
> >  > to make sure they saw nothing? And by that extension, what's to keep
> >  > a project from adding that to their local mediawiki's stylesheet? I
> would
> >  > assume a policy would exist to prohibit the latter.
> >  >
> >  > Just some food for thought.
> >  >
> >  > -Chad
> >  >
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