[Foundation-l] Restricting Appointed members (Proposal).

Milos Rancic millosh at gmail.com
Tue Mar 18 08:38:27 UTC 2008


I agree that we don't need to hurry about other aspects of our
organization now. However, I think that it is useful to talk about
that. Actually, I don't remember when we were talking last time about
a need to have fully democratic control over the Board.

On 3/17/08, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
> as I said, there might be no need, even by your definition. It all depends
>  on the report and whether accepted by the board. So please do not act
>  hastely here and do not try to get everything done at once. Rome isn't biult
>  on one day either.
>
>  2008/3/17, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com>:
>
> >
>  > On 3/17/08, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > If you have a seperate body in place, such as the VC, there might be no
>  > need
>  > >  for such requirement, as there would be another way to control the
>  > >  foundtaion more directly. We should not put these requirements in just
>  > to
>  > >  put them in, but only if they are useful. Therefore, I think it is best
>  > to
>  > >  await the developments on the VC side. There seems to be no hurry with
>  > >  regards to the number of volunteers anyway?
>  >
>  >
>  > Community control over WMF bodies is necessary whatever is number of
>  > those bodies. If someone made bad decisions, they should be
>  > responsible at the next elections. This is an extremely simple
>  > principle of representative democracy. However, this is not
>  > implemented coherently in the bylaws.
>  >
>  > And this may be implemented in (at least) three ways: (1) To give the
>  > right to the elected members to appoint and remove expert members, (2)
>  > to limit powers and proportion of the appointed members or (3) to move
>  > all expertize out of the Board, to payed professionals (I prefer this
>  > option).
>  >
>  >
>
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