[Foundation-l] [Fwd: About Alexandria] -> to Usenet ?

[Brian McNeil]

I have approximately 4Gb of email on my hard disk which I back up to an
external drive daily. I'd welcome suggestions on Free software that could
better manage that than Outlook and can import my archives, but I simply
won't entertain a webmail solution. I've tried Hotmail, I've tried Gmail, I
end up getting sick of flashy bits and adverts and just want a plain
no-frills version of the document I'm interested in - the humble email. I
want it on *my* computer, and not in someone's database for analysis and god
only know what else.

Being so old-fashioned, crotchety, and pro-RFC based solutions, I rather
like the idea of setting up nntp://wikimedia.org and running most of the
lists off a news server. I believe the options offered with many of the
newsgroup software packages would offer individuals far more flexibility in
how they decide what to read (eg killfiling threads and/or posters) and less
intervention would be required. I'd have options such as scoring posts from
board members highly thus getting their posts highlighted; I'd be able to
killfile threads I thought were dead and totally off track, and for those
without news software a NNTP<->Email gateway is relatively trivial to set
up. A private wmf. hierarchy seems like a solution that would suit a lot of
people and with a NNTP<->mail gateway those who couldn't take advantage of
the changeover would notice little difference.


Brian McNeil

-----Original Message-----
From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Williamson
Sent: 09 March 2008 19:17
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: About Alexandria] -> to Usenet ?

I got google mail specifically to read Wikimedia-related lists
originally because even 2 years ago, they were already flooding my
Hotmail inbox.

Hotmail is a service I had used for at least 7 years.

Mark

On 09/03/2008, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> This is an insult to those of us who use software such as Outlook to
follow
>  the list, it simply doesn't have threading. I'm not about to change my
email
>  software which I have over 15 years worth of email in to accommodate
people
>  who can't think twice before clicking "Send". As I ended up shouting
about
>  over 170 messages *in a 12 hour period* you obviously have some warped
idea
>  of what is a reasonable volume to have to deal with.
>
>  Oh, and I'm painfully aware that at one or two points I ended up on the
top
>  posters list. That was before incidents like hitting a rate of over 300
>  emails per day. Following this list isn't meant to be a full-time
>  occupation.
>
>
>  Brian McNeil
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>  [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
Dalton
>  Sent: 09 March 2008 15:02
>  To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: About Alexandria] -> to Usenet ?
>
>  > This lack of understanding is something you share with other high
>  >  volume posters.  When important people start to leave the list,
>  >  you don't see this as a loss.  The only important thing is that
>  >  you can post, post, post.  Just as the only important thing about
>  >  Wikimania is whether you can go.  It's all about you, you, you.
>
>  As a high volume poster, I certainly see people leaving the list as a
>  problem. I just don't see myself as being responsible for it. This
>  list is not that high volume, as long as you use a decent mail client
>  it's very easy to read the threads you're interested in and ignore the
>  rest (it would be easier if everyone used a decent mail client and
>  didn't constantly break threads, of course...).
>
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