[Foundation-l] Concern for the safety of Wikimaniansin Alexandria

[Mark Williamson]

Rather than complaining and shouting, you could just delete all
incoming messages on the topic until you get one from Sue or Mike.
Just a thought.

Mark

On 06/03/2008, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> I have a simple request here - and it applies to this topic but does not add
>  to the discussion on it.
>
>  SHUT UP UNTIL MIKE AND SUE HAVE DONE THEIR INVESTIGATION/ANALYSIS!
>
>  In the space of approximately 12 hours I ended up with over 170 messages in
>  my foundation-l folder, mainly on the Alexandria issue. Those that I read
>  added little or nothing to the discussion and were rehashing of already
>  flogged-to-death aspects of the location decision. No wonder board members
>  don't want to be involved in this list; some people make it a full-time
>  occupation just to read it.
>
>  Sue has been asked to look into this by the board, and I'd guess that's why
>  Mike is posting about it to keep people informed on an investigation that
>  has been partly delegated to him and is ongoing. I have every confidence
>  that Mike will liaise with the WM2008 organisers and get details on what
>  contact they've had with local law enforcement about security measures. A
>  little understanding about the fact that some security is "security through
>  obscurity" is required.
>
>  I've tried to stay out of this debate-cum-debacle that the mailing list has
>  become; instead I'm trying to put together a team of Wikinewsies to turn up,
>  do coverage of the event, talks, and workshops. Hell, I even managed to
>  persuade Mike Halterman to put his name down and he makes no secret of being
>  gay.
>
>
>
>  Brian McNeil
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>  [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Marc Riddell
>  Sent: 06 March 2008 17:16
>  To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Concern for the safety of Wikimaniansin
>  Alexandria
>
>
> on 3/6/08 10:58 AM, Mike Godwin at mgodwin at wikimedia.org wrote:
>
>  >
>  > Marc Riddell writes:
>  >
>  >> Thanks, Chad, for your clarification. I am frankly amazed by the
>  >> decision to
>  >> hold the event in Alexandria. Given what has been said about the
>  >> cultural
>  >> and social attitudes toward homosexuality; it would be like having a
>  >> sponsored gathering in 1950s Birmingham, Alabama, and telling the
>  >> African-Americans not to "flaunt their blackness". It is one of the
>  >> most
>  >> insensitive decisions I have heard an institution make in a long time.
>  >
>  > I want to be clear about one point -- no one at the Foundation has
>  > urged anyone not to "flaunt" anything at Wikimania.
>  >
>  > There is plenty of reason to believe that all sorts of expressions of
>  > affection between men or between women are acceptable public behavior
>  > in Alexandria (as in many other cultures).  As I've said, I'm
>  > consulting with a number of sources to obtain good guidelines for all
>  > of us to follow. I hope to have further useful information soon.
>  >
>  >
>  > --Mike
>  >
>  Thank you for this, Mike. I still am, however, puzzled why the decision was
>  made to hold a major, sponsored event in a place where a sizable portion of
>  the guests are not welcome; and, in some cases, are treated with hostility.
>  Is this not condoning bigotry?
>
>  Marc
>
>
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