[Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Jimmy Wales in the news
Brian
Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu
Thu Mar 6 07:20:06 UTC 2008
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Brian <Brian.Mingus at colorado.edu> wrote:
> I asked Ward about this and he said someone must be putting words in his
> mouth.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
Apologies, below is the correct threading.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Steven Walling <steven.walling at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >And how many of those 20+ people actually know him?
>
> Well, one of them is Ward Cunningham, and there are several that have met
> him several times at wiki conferences. But you don't have to meet the
> founder of a non-profit personally to know he's doing more harm than good.
> I
> don't have to meet Phil Knight to understand the affect he has on Nike.
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 04/03/2008, Steven Walling <steven.walling at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Putting the utter stupidity of discussing Jimbo's sex life at all
> aside,
> > I
> > > will say that this episode rings true for me in one important sense.
> As
> > an
> > > employee of a for-profit wiki, I've had the *entire* 20+ person staff
> > agree
> > > unanimously that they love Wikipedia despite Jimmy Wales, emphasis on
> > the
> > > "despite". Part of me recognizes that all this hullabaloo is a
> product
> > of
> > > the media's inane focus on the cult of celebrity, but
> still...wouldn't
> > we
> > > just be better off without him? My moral compass swings to a
> resounding
> > Yes.
> >
> > And how many of those 20+ people actually know him?
> >
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> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Steven Walling <steven.walling at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Putting the utter stupidity of discussing Jimbo's sex life at all aside,
> I
> > will say that this episode rings true for me in one important sense. As
> an
> > employee of a for-profit wiki, I've had the *entire* 20+ person staff
> > agree
> > unanimously that they love Wikipedia despite Jimmy Wales, emphasis on
> the
> > "despite". Part of me recognizes that all this hullabaloo is a product
> of
> > the media's inane focus on the cult of celebrity, but still...wouldn't
> we
> > just be better off without him? My moral compass swings to a resounding
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:30 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/03/2008, Alec Conroy <alecmconroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The bigger problem are the allegations mentioned in the article
> about
> > > > use of foundation funds. Three specific claims are made:
> > > > -Jimbo tried to expense a $300+ bottle of wine
> > > > -Jimbo tried to expense a massage parlor visit
> > > > -Wikimedia foundation took away Jimbo's credit card.
> > > > Obviously, of it any of that were true, it would be super bad, and
> > > > nothing can be done but watch it play out.
> > > > But, far more likely, if it's false, the foundation needs to find
> out
> > > > that it's false, and then get that word out ASAP. I haven't seen
> > them
> > > > say it's not true. I haven't looked hard, but then-- nobody else
> > out
> > > > there is looking hard either. If I haven't seen "the facts" on
> the
> > > > issue, neither has almost everyone else.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sue Gardner did answer on Danny Wool's blog, fwiw.
> > >
> > > Mostly the media interest is as cheap tabloid filler. All the London
> > > commuter papers, with the focus of the "story" being dumping people
> > > using technology. In between fabulously newsworthy reports on Kelly
> > > Osbourne's haircut.
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
> > >
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