[Foundation-l] Reply to Mark

Nathan nawrich at gmail.com
Sun Mar 2 04:28:41 UTC 2008


Good thing I was making a little joke, then ;)

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:

> Contrary to what some meanies here have said, I don't presume to speak
> for anyone else. But based on my own experience, I am guessing that
> the over  2millon american indians whose ancestors have inhabited this
> country for over 10000 years would be extremely offended by your
> fatally erroneous statement. The US has been a colonial state from the
> beginning, I will not deny that and neither should you.
>
> On 01/03/2008, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sure, but all that other territory that eventually became states was
> > unoccupied anyway, right? :P Sort of skidding off topic here, aren't we?
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
> cimonavaro at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/1/08, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> > > > geni wrote:
> > > > > On 01/03/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> What? Since when did America ever speak for any colonies? It was
> a
> > > > >> colony, it was never a colonial power...
> > > > >>
> > > > > Puerto Rico? Various former Spannish colonies acquired at one
> point?
> > > > The Monroe Doctrine was a neo-colonial instrument. Helping Panama to
> > > > break away from Colombia. Periodic invasions and skullduggery in
> small
> > > > countries when the U.S. didn't like the government, as in the Arbenz
> > > > assassination in Guatemala. The continuing hostile attitude towards
> > > > Cuba and Venezuela because those countries put their own people
> first.
> > > > Maintaining armed occupation is an expensive way of keeping
> colonies, so
> > > > they had to find different ways of doing it.
> > > >
> > > > Some might even say that Tony Blair's easy compliance in the
> invasion of
> > > > Iraq showed that the colonial master role had been reversed. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Ec
> > >
> > > Lessee, how many states were there in the compact during the articles
> of
> > > confederation? Never acquired any territories, no-no (won't go to
> > > rehab, no-no...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
> > >
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