[Foundation-l] New draft of privacy policy (urgent)

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Please eat your own dog food ... TL;DR is what ?
Thanks,
    GerardM

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Ryan <wiki.ral315 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Mike has written a new version of the privacy policy, taking into
> > account comments made on meta and this list, until the 19th of June.
> >
> > You may find this new version here:
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_Privacy_Policy_June_19_2008
> >
>
> First of all, thank you Florence and Mike for your work on this.
>
> I noticed that it doesn't mention anywhere the possibility that the policy
> may be altered in the future.  Most sites, including Yahoo and Google, do
> so.  Is this omission accidental or deliberate?  Is such a mention either
> necessary or encouraged legally?
>
> In general, I agree with others that the policy might be worth splitting
> up.  But if it isn't, I think it should be pruned.  For example, I'm
> looking
> at Section VIII, Point C.  Why in the world is it necessary in a privacy
> policy to specifically mention "badly-behaved web spiders" as a possible
> reason for examining log data?
>
> The mention of IRC is strange.  IRC is not a Wikimedia venue, so perhaps it
> should be removed completely.  But if it is to be left, why was the mention
> about the possible exposure of IPs deleted?  Surely that's an important
> privacy concern regarding IRC (where the IRC guidelines have nothing to do
> with privacy)
>
> Section IV also reads more like a manual than a policy.  Perhaps that was
> the intent, but I think more than anything, we should be informing our
> users, not teaching them.
>
> Perhaps my main point is this:
>
> -- Yahoo privacy policy:  1,427 words
> -- Google privacy policy:  1,858 words
> -- Myspace privacy policy:  2,322 words
> -- WMF current privacy policy:  1,767 words
> -- WMF privacy policy draft:  5,081 words
>
> A privacy policy should not be a TL;DR for the majority of our
> contributors,
> even if a clear majority will never read it.  I imagine the ones that would
> read it would appreciate (relative) brevity.
>
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