[Foundation-l] Please REJECT the latin wikinews project. inmediatly

[Ray Saintonge]

Mark Williamson wrote:
> We've been over this before.
>   

I'm sure you have!
> No matter how ridiculous the rules are, they're rules. 

That's not a very creative way to deal with the problem.  Rules should 
not just be a technique for sweeping problems under the carpet.
> If you have any
> idea about how to budge the Language Committee, I'm all ears.
>   

My sympathies if they have gotten to /that/ stage. :-)
> While I don't personally support Simple English projects, and I don't
> know that a Latin Wikinews would be useful, I certainly don't think we
> should have any rule against the latter - it has an ISO code and we
> already have a Wikipedia in Latin (although it is not as "successful"
> as some here like to claim, they're certainly working on it).
>   

Personally, I would not be likely to write in either, though, for the 
reasons that I mentioned before I would be more inclined to support 
Simple English than Latin.  I would put more weight on the need to have 
enough people to make the projects viable.
> I hope nobody mistakes my posts earlier in this thread for my personal
> opinion, because they are not. I was stating the rules as they exist
> and as they have been interpreted by the language committee.
>   

Fair enough.
Ec
> 2008/6/20 Dan Rosenthal 
>   
>> Agreed, and it's made especially strong in the light that in both Latin and
>> Simple English, we already have projects online and running (Simple
>> Wikipedia and Latin Wikipedia, for example). If the currently running
>> projects are acceptable, why should we be barring new projects in those
>> languages? It's just ridiculous bureaucracy that we shouldn't be having to
>> deal with. We shouldn't have rules just for the sake of rules.
>>
>> -Dan
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> Dan Rosenthal wrote:
>>>       
>>>> We have a Latin Wikipedia that is alive and well, and proceeding quite
>>>> nicely. Why would we reject the Latin Wikinews?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> For that matter, what's so wrong about having a Simple English
>>> Wikinews?  The question of an ISO code may be a strong prima facie
>>> consideration, but it should not be an absolute rule.
>>>
>>> Assuming that there are enough interested people to keep it going, such
>>> a progress has a clear audience.  It would, for example, be very useful
>>> for English as a Second Language (ESL) classes where having contemporary
>>> texts in readable language would be a great stimulus to language
>>> development.
>>>
>>> Ec
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Jean Paul montaigne wrote
>>>>         
>>>>> there is a request to a new project of wikinews in latin:
>>>>>           
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Latina
>>>       
>>>>> accordying to the new policy: only wikisource is allowed in ancient,
>>>>> classical, historical, extinct or dead languages.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy
>>>>>
>>>>> and now, the language committee is competent in the request of new projects.
>>>>>           
>>>>> such as recently reject the project of wikinews in simple english, for the
>>>>>           
>>>>> currently policy, of course, (in this case for not having a valid ISO
>>>>> code).
>>>>>           
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Simple_English
>>>       
>>>>> and, now, please apply the rules and reject the latin wikinews project.
>>>>>