[Foundation-l] Stalking Article

[Gerard Meijssen]

Ray,
We are talking about people who on or off list threaten others to kill, maim
and rape. We are talking about people associated with aggressive pov pushing
and using any means whatsoever to establish their pov. There have been
several examples given of this behaviour by credible people. Suggesting as
you do that there is no idea that we are talking about it not where we are
at.

When YOU do not know what is being discussed you either read up on it, do
some research, talk to people involved or keep out of it. Suggesting that
there is no clarity about such issues is exactly the kind of behaviour that
makes this situation worse because it leads to more procrastination. What is
needed is clarity to what extend the WMF is aware of this situation and what
involvement it can have, research is needed about the extend this type of
behaviour DOES affect our project and impacts the NPOV of controversial
subjects. This research is needed because it will prevent people from
ignoring or belittling this issue.

Thanks,
       GerardM

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:

> Mark Williamson wrote:
> > In response to this whole thread, I have two sentiments.
> >
> > First of all, stalking is bad.
> >
> > Second of all, we need to be clear about what is stalking and what is
> > not. Making fun of someone is not stalking. Pursuing someone and
> > repeatedly harassing them is.
> >
> Sure, without a clear idea about what the offence really is we are only
> dealing with subjective interpretations.
>
> Repeated harassment may sometimes be only in the eye of the person who
> sees himself harassed.
>
> We have recently had one person try to get a bot authorised on every
> project that he could, and viewed anyone who would go around after him
> to oppose this as harassment.
>
> Others will view any campaign to oppose all their AfD's as harassment.
>
> Unless we can come to an agreement about what we mean this will get
> nowhere.
>
> Ec
>
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