[Foundation-l] Stalking Article

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
It would be one of the issues for a project / volunteer council.. Having a
platform to get these issues trashed out makes sense. Having the Foundation
involved can be a bad idea on many levels. However, not addressing this is
bad in and of itself.

Sure the projects are not monolithic, and there has been many examples of
people who did not do too good on one project to be perfectly at home in
another project. When stalking is perpetrated by admins, when the policies
are clear how stalking can be dealt with, make sure that these admins get
blocked first and de-adminned second.. Not doing this is giving in to the
dark side.

What I would like to know from people like Mike, Erik or Sue is what room
they have to get involved in this issue. When this is better understood, it
gives a clue to those opposed to stalkers what more and what else needs to
be done.

Thanks,
     GerardM

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:

> SlimVirgin wrote:
>
> > Dan, I feel we've almost left it too late. We currently have a
> > situation where several of those involved in some of the stalking
> > sites have been promoted to admins, and many more are regular editors
> > who routinely pursue editors they don't like -- via wikistalking,
> > RfCs, RfArs, and reports on AN/I -- in order to make their time on
> > Wikipedia miserable. Shortly after people were shocked that
> > NewYorkBrad was outed and left the project, one of the three people
> > who was instrumental in trying to out me in 2006 was promoted to
> > bureaucrat on another WMF project, with the support of FloNight of the
> > ArbCom. What kind of message does that send?
> >
>
> The message it sends is that projects are not administrated as a monolith,
> and rules vary from project to project while generally not taking into
> account the history of a user on other projects. You've mentioned "other
> project" actions several times - perhaps the next stage to approach would
> be
> developing a way to handle these serious conduct issues in a cross-wiki
> way.
> What I think the Foundation has been trying to stay away from is getting
> deeply involved in the user administration aspects of operating Wikimedia
> projects. There are various good reasons for this, reasons that make
> attempting other mechanisms worthwhile before involving the WMF directly.
>
> Nathan
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