[Foundation-l] Wikimedia mouvement

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
In the Wiki movement the Wikimedia Foundation, its projects, its chapters
are vitally important. When you want to call this a movement however, it is
equally important to reach out and recognise the part other organisations
and projects play.

When you call it the "Wikimedia movement" and invoke trademark rules to
exclude, as a movement it will be limited. Its potential relevance limited.
It is for this reason that I suggest to be clearly inclusive or exclusive.
When we choose to be exclusive, there is still room for a wiki movement, it
saddens me that the "Wikimedia movement" will be as a consequence less
relevant in this wiki movement.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Milos probably has the beginning of an answer in citing sources such as
> Wikizine or the Wikipedia Weekly. Those would be totally interesting to
> cite or refer to. There are other initiatives that would be nice to
> mention as well.
>
> I'd say that this should probably not be the website of Wikieducator,
> but there is probably nothing wrong in citing them or even writing a
> page about them.
>
> A key word is probably "wikimedia". Wikimedia is a trademark, and those
> who are allowed to use it are probably those who should be in charge of
> this site. This include chapters and Foundation, but not wikieducator.
>
> Ant
>
> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > The notion that the movement consists only of the Foundation and its
> > chapters is a bit thin. There are many other organisations and people
> that I
> > would consider part of this movement.. Wikieducator for instance is a
> great
> > example of this, they have a bigger potential to do good for the less and
> > least resourced languages then any of the WMF chapters.
> >
> > So my question is, is this intended to be about WMF and its chapters or
> can
> > this be larger then that ?
> > Thanks,
> >      GerardM
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I posted a proposition regarding the Wikimedia Mouvement here:
> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Www.wikimedia.org_template
> >>
> >> The general idea is to create a website which would report on our global
> >> mouvement. Main benefits would be
> >> * to present ourselves as a loose but nevertheless coordinated body of
> >> some sort (public face)
> >> * share practices and experiences between chapters and wmf
> >>
> >> Situation right now is not satisfactory and I believe it likely to
> >> create either more tension or more separation in the future. Generally,
> >> information regarding wikimedia mouvement is hosted on
> >> * internalwiki (private wiki shared between some chapters members and
> wmf),
> >> * on meta (access to information is very confusing since it is mostly a
> >> work-wiki and a wiki shared by many),
> >> * on Foundationwiki (eg
> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room/Media_Contact_2008)
> >> * on each association website (eg http://wikimedia.de/)
> >>
> >> Can we discuss that ? If you are supportive, please mention it on the
> >> wiki page
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ant
> >>
> >>
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