[Foundation-l] Knol: on the bright side of things...

Samuel Klein meta.sj at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 19:39:16 UTC 2008


Yes, that's crazy talk.    Utterly mad.

Allowing unfree derivatives sounds dangerously close to the "public domain"
the anarchists like to talk about.    <looks for a tar-pot>

SJ


On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I agree, you are an heretic.
>
> Can someone bring in the oil and the feathers ?
>
> Ant
>
> David Goodman wrote:
> > I am going to suggest the heretical proposition that we have
> > everything to gain by changing our licensing so export to them under
> > their present policies (or some attainable modification of them) is
> > interpreted as being within our license, even if it allows the
> > creation of unfree derivatives, and accepts a link to a Wikipedia
> > article as adequate author designation for previously contributed
> > content.  (I am aware of the difficulties in making the transition)
> >
> > The principle I suggest is that the increase in freely accessible
> > content is more important that the principle of libre
> > publication--that we are more likely to add to the existing structure
> > of publication in the world than to replace it.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> Knol allow us to track massive copyright violations.
> >>
> >>
> >> Example:
> >>
> http://knol.google.com/k/knol/system/knol/pages/Search?nodeId=32qv6k5e4j8yx.0#
> >>
> >> This author copied a collection of french speaking wikipedia articles.
> >> All are taggued cc by 3.0.
> >>
> >> Now, if you go to this one for example:
> >>
> http://knol.google.com/k/maxime-seligman/thalassothrapie/32qv6k5e4j8yx/13#
> >>
> >> On the right hand side, you'll see
> >>
> >> Similar Content on the Web
> >>
> >> spa.fr 100%
> >> distanteyes.net 100%
> >> wikipedia.org 100%
> >>
> >> So, I clicked on distanteyes...
> >>
> http://distanteyes.net/la-thalassotherapie.html?00ae24bc0e7eeb85a75e1e95743234ab=5915bde6e3eed210f82d1ea04d09e61c
> >>
> >> 100% copied from Wikipedia. No licence, no mention of Wikipedia, no
> link.
> >>
> >> And I clicked on spa.fr
> >> http://www.spa.fr/la%20balneotherapie%20et%20la%20thalassotherapie.php
> >> Copyright (c) 2007 La maison du spa
> >>
> >>
> >> Ant
> >>
> >>
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