[Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China

[Ian A. Holton]

Christiano et al,

 re-reading my last mail: I must agree, it sounds silly as the intended
sarcasm combined with my own opinion, which normally isn't very NPOV itself,
didn't quite come out. Maybe because I was writing it sitting on the train
;-)

Enjoy,

 Ian
[[User:Poeloq]]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Christiano Moreschi <
moreschiwikiman at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Oh, don't be silly. This is the flaming mailing list. NPOV doesn't apply
> here. We can all mouth off about the PRC as much as we like, so long as it's
> reasonably on-topic. Discussion is never NPOV, nor should it be.
>
> CM
>
>
> Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:06:57 +0200
> > From: poeloq at gmail.com
> > To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> >  let's keep this discussion NPOV Wikipedia-style - especially when
> talking
> > about a country that is being potrayed in the media as the sleeping evil
> > giant on the one hand and the next world superpower (and hope) by the
> > others.
> >
> > It is correct, that many things in the People's Republic of China may not
> be
> > dealt with in the same way as the West / the free world, but let's not
> start
> > repeating obvious propaganda messages and statements of the other
> extreme.
> >
> > In regards to the subject at hand, I'm not sure what the reason for
> > unblocking is and the Olympics are not necessarily the reason for
> > _everything_ happening in the PR at the moment. I know my fair bit on the
> > GWC topic and I am fairly certain that blocking is cheaper and more
> > effective than unblocking, disregardless of if they are tracking who is
> > looking at what, when, why and how.
> >
> > Ian
> > [[User:Poeloq]]
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Dan Rosenthal  wrote:
> >
> >> Probably cheaper too. You gotta pay all the spooks monitoring people
> (and
> >> the snatch and grab teams kidnapping them, and the interrogators etc.).
> All
> >> that money could be used for more important things (like bribes, and
> lining
> >> corrupt officials pockets).
> >>
> >> -dan
> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ian A. Holton  wrote:
> >>>> Ting, confirmation of the unblock? I can confirm this. I have a server
> >> in
> >>>> Beijing which had access, my friends in Beijing have access and I can
> >>> also
> >>>> confirm that access to Wikipedia, both English and Chinese, was
> >> unblocked
> >>> in
> >>>> Huludao (Liaoning Province) as of today.
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps it's just become considered better to allow access then track
> >>> who reads what.  :-/
> >>>
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