[Foundation-l] Allemanic and Albanian - conditional approval for Gheg

[Ilario Valdelli]

This strange Ethnologue... What is Albanian? What is Ghegh? What is Tosk?

Standard Albanian seems to be a "revised form of Tosk", in any case a
written Tosk.

Will we have a Wikipedia written in Tosk? I don't think so. Will we
have a spoken Wikipedia in Tosk? I don't think so.

If you read in detail Ethnologue
(http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=als) you can see
some confusion: "Language use -> Official language. It is used in
schools." I know that Albanian is the official language of Albania and
not the Tosk. Is there some little usual confusion of Ethnologue?

Il could be a misundersting but about the Gheg
(http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=aln) I can read:
"Language use -> Official regional language in Kossovo. Vigorous.
Books are published in Gheg. Restrictions on Albanian at Kossovo's
university since 1990."

It's not a misunderstanding for Ethnologue Albanian=Tosk. But the ISO
code are generated without any consideration and we have magically als
for Tosk and sqi for Albanian. I am a little bit confused: the
official language of Albania is it the Tosk or the Albanian, or the
two languages are the same language?

IMHO sqi=als and Albanian Wikipedia is sufficient to include Tosk.

Ilario

On Jan 4, 2008 11:48 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> Currently the Allemannic Wikipedia is known under the name als.wikipedia.org.
> This code is wrong as the code is reserved for Tosk, the main Albanian
> language. We are about to give Gheg, another Albanian language conditional
> approval. As it will be hard to explain to some why we give Tosk conditional
> approval, it is decidedly awkward that Allemanic is using the wrong code.
>
> I want to propose that the Allemanic Wikipedia is renamed to
> gsw.wikipedia.org and thereby associate the language with the correct
> ISO-639 code. The rename is opposed by people in the Allemanic Wikipedia
> because they do not agree with how their language is perceived.
> However, gsw<http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=gsw>has
> Alemannisch as a synonym for Schwyzerdütsch and it is therefore
> obvious
> that the same language is meant.
>
> Given that there was no contention in the language committee, the request
> for a Gheg Wikipedia is given conditional approval.
>
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
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