[Foundation-l] Reply to Mark
Yann Forget
yann at forget-me.net
Fri Feb 29 15:38:42 UTC 2008
Hello,
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Mark Williamson wrote:
>
>> It has come as a shock to us that such a decision as the one
>> about the location of this Wikimania could be passed down with
>> such little consideration of our safety.
>>
>> As I have said, this seems unlikely to change now, and as we say
>> in my family there is no use crying over spilt milk.
>
> Your concerns are valid. But hey, your problem is not the only
> problem in this world. People are oppressed by states, by their
> fellow citizens, by poverty, and by their own lack of skills,
> abilities and knowledge. If more people knew how to advance
> agriculture, or how to pool their resources in ventures such as
> the Grameen Bank in Bangladesh, they wouldn't have to work so hard
> to support themselves. Oppression from states is made harder by
> the dissemination of knowledge to individuals. Wikipedia is here
> to disseminate knowledge to individuals. How can we improve this?
>
> Perhaps you feel you need to stay at home from this Wikimania.
> That's bad, but it doesn't mean the whole Wikimania is wasted.
> Wikimania should be kept open to the people who, for various
> reasons, can't be there in person. You can submit a paper and a
> video presentation, and join the live chat session, but everybody
> doesn't need to buy the air ticket. We're not here to sell air
> tickets. We're here to disseminate knowledge.
>
> Hosting Wikimania in Europe or the U.S. might be a problem for a
> lot of people who can't get a visa or who just can't afford to go.
> And for some people who feel that this is just another scheme that
> "the west" is trying to push down their throats.
>
> As an outreach it is really important to host some major
> Wikipedia-related event on the African continent and it is
> important to host a major Wikipedia-related event in the Arab
> world. It doesn't have to be Wikimania, last year there was a
> "Wikipedia Academy" in South Africa, but now it happens to be
> Wikimania. And as such, Egypt is an excellent combination. Many
> other countries would be far worse. Wikipedians in Syria, Algeria
> and Malawi should certainly try to organize local or national
> meetups, and we need to encourage this, but I doubt they will be
> able to host Wikimania in the near future.
>
> Rather than the U.S. gay community, our first question should be:
> Can wikipedians from Iran, Syria, Algeria, Kenya and Uganda travel
> to Wikimania in Egypt? Are there any wikipedians at all in Libya?
> What about guest workers from the P.R.C. on duty in Africa? Or
> Filipinos who work in Qatar? Are there affordable flights from
> Qatar or Nairobi to Cairo, and what about visa regulations?
Thanks Lars for writing down and remembering us the really important issues.
Regards,
Yann
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