[Foundation-l] Status of cloak requests

[Dan Rosenthal]

A question that has been raised for some time. Freenode has issues  
beyond just the IRC cloaks.  Why aren't we having an  
irc.wikimedia.org?  There's really no good reason beyond "that's just  
the way it is."
-dan


On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Adam Brookes wrote:

> Whilst I appreciate the circumstances, it suprises me that one  
> person being
> injured brings the whole process of requesting cloaks to a grinding  
> halt. If
> this problem is with Freenode then perhaps it should be asked, why  
> do we use
> Freenode rather than another network or indeed our own official  
> unofficial
> IRC network. It seems as if there is an additional layer of  
> burecracy that
> could be removed by doing this ourselves. I'm sure we could find  
> both the
> hardware and the people to manage such a network and it would of  
> course
> offer us more control on other issues. Is there any particular  
> reason why
> the Foundation doesn't want to get invovled with IRC?
>
> Regards,
>
> Adambro
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> <quote> The freenode head of staff is the person responsible for
>> sorting this paperwork with us and unfortunately she has been
>> indisposed due to injury for some weeks now. </quote>
>>
>> I doubt there is much to prioritize if you are injured and unable to
>> work. Nor do I think there is much of a "higher level" in Freenode as
>> Head of Staff (although I immediately admit that I am not that into
>> their working structure). We can either complain now, or just wait,
>> both will generate probably the same result, except that the first
>> brings sad and ugly faces, and the second doesn't.
>>
>> BR, Eia
>>
>> 2008/2/26, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) <newyorkbrad at gmail.com>:
>>> I am becoming concerned by this situation. Someone, from the  
>>> Office if
>>> necessary, should contact Freenode at a high level and have them
>>> prioritize this matter. Because IP's can be easily harvested when
>>> people go into the IRC channels uncloaked, this is a user privacy
>>> issue and needs to be resolved at the earliest possible time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Newyorkbrad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/26/08, Sean Whitton <sean at silentflame.com> wrote:
>>>> Majorly,
>>>>
>>>> I have the feeling you are ignoring me :)
>>>>
>>>> The issue is that freenode are unable to sort us out thus we can  
>>>> make
>>>> no progress. If freenode were more available, I could set all the
>>>> cloaks in the queue. But this is totally beyond our control, and  
>>>> this
>>>> is why I ask for your patience.
>>>>
>>>> Setting cloaks does not take long for me and I can definately do  
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Majorly <axel9891 at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 25/02/2008, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Majorly <axel9891 at googlemail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> And in addition, I've had three cloaks before. One of them
>> took a
>>>>>> while, and
>>>>>>> I had to resend it, but overall they were done quite
>> smoothly. Other
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> have not had such a good experience. Still, I don't see why
>> we can't
>>>>>> appoint
>>>>>>> an additional contact(s) who isn't almost always afk on IRC
>> and on a
>>>>>>> Wikibreak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fine, I don't see a problem with having more contacts,
>>>>>> especially if those additional contacts can make a
>> more-persistent
>>>>>> online presence. I've volunteered for it, I'm sure other people
>> would
>>>>>> be willing to volunteer for it as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who do we need to talk to about volunteering for this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Andrew Whitworth
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew, I think the only person who we can talk to is Sean. As I
>> said
>>>> this
>>>>> has been brought up in the past. Somewhere in this list's
>> archives. Sean
>>>>> simply said no more were needed, and he was handling it. I have a
>> feeling
>>>> he
>>>>> will say the same again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex (Majorly)
>>>>>
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