[Foundation-l] Wikimania and the Muhammad pix
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Sun Feb 24 14:32:24 UTC 2008
But is it a piece of cloth to those who burn it?
I personally don't exactly disagree with burning the American flag. I
am not the most patriotic American in the world. But I do think that
the intention of someone who is desecrating something "sacred" is very
For example, the teacher in the Sudan who named a teddy bear Mohammed.
Do you really think she meant to insult the Prophet (PBUH)? I don't. I
think that is totally ridiculous.
However, the people who drew (some of the) Jyllands-Posten cartoons
meant to insult Islam in some way, although as I understand it, they
were intended more as an exercise in free speech than as an insult in
and of itself.
On 21/02/2008, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> David Gerard wrote:
> > On 20/02/2008, teun spaans <teun.spaans at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "increase its educational value, null."
> >> May i disagree on this point? They at least show, i suppose, as some of the
> >> illustrations on the Muhammed articles are some centuries old, that the
> >> opinion on this subject has varied over the centuries.
> > Indeed. I was unaware, until the present discussion, just how widely
> > this viewpoint - that images of Muhammad are verboten in all
> > circumstances - is in fact highly disputed.
> While it may not be educationally necessary in a literate society, in a
> pre-literate society representational images can be very powerful. In
> illustrating some activity of Muhammed some representation of that
> activity can be a powerful educational tool for those who cannot read.
> Unfortunately, the power of abstraction comes from reading. The Qur'an
> certainly speaks of Muhammed, and thus creates pictures of him in
> words. Logical consistency would suggest the absurdity that these word
> pictures should also be forbidden. Abstract reasoning allows readers to
> understand that any representations of Muhammed or Jesus are not based
> on original photographs.
> We cannot underestimate the power of images, symbols and myths as
> entities in their own right. These powers make no scientific sense at
> all, but that does not diminish their influence. Many Americans can be
> very upset when they see their flag being abused, yet to the strictly
> logical mind it is just a piece of cloth.
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